Best gear for fixing joint, tendon problems

**fireantz** · 08-19-2007, 05:27 PM

Hi Guys, its been 8 years since I did a cycle but recently completed two cycles of Stan tabs (2 x 5 week cycles). I have found due to the additional weight Ive been pushing that Ive been coming away with a number of injuries. Even though Im warming up and stretching I seem to pull something which then knocks me out of the gym for a week or so. I was wondering is there a steroid which will help with repairing joint and muscle injuries as well as building lean muscle mass? Im after something that readily available on the black market but also something which wont easily give me gyno etc. I was think 'test' or something...let me know what you think....

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 05:29 PM

Deca is probably one of the best compounds for joints and tendons, testosterone is probably the worst although it should be used with every cycle

**Hiphopharry** · 08-19-2007, 09:46 PM

Deca

**passthetest** · 08-19-2007, 09:52 PM

wait how can deca fix you tendons, i though it just lubricated joints?

**10nispro** · 08-19-2007, 09:53 PM

agree with the deca ....head to the supplement forum...some good advice about joint pain there. I use a suspension gel that works wonders. its an all natural supplement. good luck

**rabidsquirrel** · 08-19-2007, 09:54 PM

hgh can but its not aas

**10nispro** · 08-19-2007, 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=passthetest]wait how can deca fix you tendons, i though it just lubricated joints?[/QUOTE
true...it helps lubricate...

**Merc..** · 08-19-2007, 09:57 PM

Welcome to the site......

you will need to do alot of research but look at the deca profile for starters..

Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)

Also if you havent already you can look into something called super cissus. Its a over the counter supplement but I have really seen it work for peeps I know.... ( I know you said blackmarket or whatever but I just have seen alot of good things with cissus so I wanted to mention it )

Merc

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by passthetest

wait how can deca fix you tendons, i though it just lubricated joints?

well if that post earlier is true (all though others claim it is unsubstantiated) deca lubricates the joints by storing water in them ( this we know ) although it apparently is supposed to increase collagen synthesis which in turn heals ligaments etc... I also think this is a reason why deca is so popular in professional sports, but this is just my opinion

**Slaiv** · 08-19-2007, 10:04 PM

but deca is a pretty hardcore steroid no?

with as little as 100mg a week it can shut down your natural test for god knows how long :-/

not to mention water retention, deca dick and higher gyno risks than other aas

**Hiphopharry** · 08-19-2007, 10:04 PM

too bad it had such a long detection time!

**Dog-Slime** · 08-19-2007, 10:05 PM

I think EQ is the best steroid for this purpose but deca is a close second.

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Slaiv

but deca is a pretty hardcore steroid no?

with as little as 100mg a week it can shut down your natural test for god knows how long :-/

not to mention water retention, deca dick and higher gyno risks than other aas

yes but as test is supposed to be the base of all cycles, deca dick usually isnt a problem...water retention is usually fixed with nolva or letro if your gyno prone or really wanna stay dry.. the biggest issue with deca is the the unwanted production of progesterone... which also can be controlled with meds like caberline (sp?)... yes harry detection time is the biggest bitch.. I havent personally run deca but this is some of the things ive learned while researching

**Merc..** · 08-19-2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by JackBauer

yes but as test is supposed to be the base of all cycles, deca dick usually isnt a problem...water retention is usually fixed with nolva or letro if your gyno prone or really wanna stay dry.. the biggest issue with deca is the the unwanted production of progesterone... which also can be controlled with meds like caberline (sp?)... yes harry detection time is the biggest bitch.. I havent personally run deca but this is some of the things ive learned while researching

Good post .. Your doing your research Jack, keep at it

Also keep in mind 19 nors (deca , tren ) can also stimulate prolactin which can lead to milking nips ( prolactin causes lactation in the mammary )

Progesterone and prolactin .. Two different hormones .. Alot of peeps asked me that this week so figured I would post it here...

Merc.

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 10:20 PM

i mean unless its like a trickle... are there any other sides to the extra prolactin?

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 10:22 PM

oh yeah and about the harsh shutting down with 19-nors.... it seems as though when running a test only cycle or even maybe a little oral HCG is not needed or really suggested for PCT but this seems to be the case with 19-nors as it really shuts you down... if your running particularly alot youd wanna run HCG at low doses during the cycle

**Merc..** · 08-19-2007, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by JackBauer

i mean unless its like a trickle... are there any other sides to the extra prolactin?

Why of course there is ......

Steroids lower t-3 and in turn increase prolaction and can cause loss of sex drive..

Merc.

**JackBauer** · 08-19-2007, 10:29 PM

haha aright i just thought the test would make up for that... i always thought people running t3 or t4 are just tryin to squeeze everything they can out of the thyroid... sorry everyone.. didnt mean to hijack the thread

**Merc..** · 08-19-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by JackBauer

haha aright i just thought the test would make up for that... i always thought people running t3 or t4 are just tryin to squeeze everything they can out of the thyroid... sorry everyone.. didnt mean to hijack the thread

Test does the same thing....

Merc.

**Kratos** · 08-19-2007, 10:41 PM

igf/gh/rest, tendons don't heal well without rest. That's the bottom line, and the bottom line is the bottom line.

**j4ever41** · 08-20-2007, 12:37 AM

I beleive as far as collagen synthesis goes it is in this order.
1.EQ
2.DECA
3.ANAVAR
I was told at one time to cycle these 3 together with NO test and if I did put in test to keep it under 250 a week. I have tried cissus for tendons as well with minimal results but it would be worth a try
But like Kratos said tendons need rest and the more chronic your problem has been the more rest they will need.

**Geeezer** · 08-20-2007, 04:54 AM

Glucosamine -1500 Mg
Chondroitin-1200Mg
MSM-500Mg
Once a day works well for me.
Takes a few weeks to load the body

**SHAGGY** · 08-20-2007, 02:12 PM

Hi there,

IGF, HGH seem to help some people, maybe you should look into that.

Resting is important but don't completely stop using the aflicted joint, resting is important, but so is keeping in motion. Depending on what is exactly causing your joint problems you can choose different therapies.

Tendons need to be stimulated to retain their orientation and function(collagen). But obviously the current amount of workload and stimulation is to much for the tendon and should be lowered accordingly.

Never bad to take a small break though, gives your muscles the chance to grow and rest also should you be overtraining.
It is true however that inflammation of tendons can easily become a chronic problem and should be treated with more respect than most people currently give it.

Wow my comment is all over the place.

Hope I helped a bit.

SHAGGY

edit; if I were you I would try to figure out what exactly is causing your problems. Maybe a visit to a specialist is warranted in case the problem truly bothers you in your day to day living.