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    Doberman is offline Associate Member
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    Not responding to first cycle!?

    Ok I started my first Cycle of Test-E 500mg plus dbol 50mg ED about 7 weeks ago and iv'e noticed no massive strength gains!? I even switched dbol brands.Iv'e had an increased libido (placebo?) mild back pumps when standing/walking and hot and cold sweats so im assuming my gear is legit? as well as a loss of appetite/lethargy.But my numbers suck! Bench has gone from 97.5kg 5x5 to 105kg 5x5, deads have gone 160kg 3x 3x 3x to 172.5kg 3x 3x 4x and iv'e gone from 228-230lbs to 235lbs-244lbs depending on time of weigh in.So all in all nothing dramatic or what could be done without gear.

    Do you think it's worth bumping test upto 750mg a week!? Shit thing is I go on vacation to Greece for a week next wensday so I wont be able to eat 4000kcals+ like I normally aim for, which wont help

    Im begining to think im a AAS non-responder

    Any ideas chaps!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doberman
    Ok I started my first Cycle of Test-E 500mg plus dbol 50mg ED about 7 weeks ago and iv'e noticed no massive strength gains!? I even switched dbol brands.Iv'e had an increased libido (placebo?) mild back pumps when standing/walking and hot and cold sweats so im assuming my gear is legit? as well as a loss of appetite/lethargy.But my numbers suck! Bench has gone from 97.5kg 5x5 to 105kg 5x5, deads have gone 160kg 3x 3x 3x to 172.5kg 3x 3x 4x and iv'e gone from 228-230lbs to 235lbs-244lbs depending on time of weigh in.So all in all nothing dramatic or what could be done without gear.

    Do you think it's worth bumping test upto 750mg a week!? Shit thing is I go on vacation to Greece for a week next wensday so I wont be able to eat 4000kcals+ like I normally aim for, which wont help

    Im begining to think im a AAS non-responder

    Any ideas chaps!?
    What is "about 7 weeks ago"? How long of a cycle are you planning to do? Everyone's body responds differently to AAS. Let me remind you that it takes 5,6, and sometimes 7 weeks before test e starts to hammer you. Is your diet in check? Are you SURE your diet is in check?? Because if it is, and your a slow responder, and assuming you have legit gear and not just a bottle of syrup, IT'S COMING!!!

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    Non-responder to AAS, when I first started I was told this "There is no such thing as a hard gainer, they are bad dieter's" - get your diet in check and use AS as an aid, not the main ingredient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    "There is no such thing as a hard gainer, they are bad dieter's"
    True statement...I actually laugh when someone uses that term...

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    your not a non responder..youre a bad dieter..seriously look at your diet and post it here..I guarantee youre not eating the way you should be

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    agree with diet problems....also what's your workout routine like?

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    Diet.

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    Diet is miniumum.

    450g PRO (Chicken Breast, Egg's, whey, lean beef mince, fish, BCAA's)
    300g CHO (Mostly low GI) Sweet potatoes, veggies, oats, pasta, brown rice
    125g FAT *Fish oils, EVOO, Egg yolks, Flax,

    Routine heavy compounds as a STAPLE I squat,dead,bench currently using a WSBB 5x5 varient with a focus on strength.

    Friday will be start of week 7 for the cycle.
    Last edited by Doberman; 08-22-2007 at 05:54 PM.

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    your body weight and numbers have gone up slightly....i hope you didnt think you was gonna be superman or something its aas, not a miracle drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godkilla
    your body weight and numbers have gone up slightly....i hope you didnt think you was gonna be superman or something its aas, not a miracle drug.

    Lol no of course not bro, but peeps put on more than that esp strength wise on a first cycle from all the threads iv'e read on here at least.

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    i will probaly get flamed for this but imo if you can actullay tell me how much ure eating, then u arent eating enough dont count eat 8 meals and shake thru out a 24hr day

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    i gained 40pds on my first cycle of test e at 1000mg a week and alot of food

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    About thirty(kept 15) on my cycle of test e at 750mg a week. Ate alot of chicken breast, tuna, with high carbs. DIET IS THE KEY!!!

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