frontloading deca

**briancb1** · 08-22-2007, 06:30 PM

I'm looking to use deca in my next cycle, but before I purpose my final layout I was wondering...

If I want to use say 400mgs of deca a week during the cycle, what would a good dose to frontload the first week? 800mgs I assume?

Thanks for any help.

**bpm1** · 08-22-2007, 06:51 PM

yup, 800mg the first wk only after that assume regular dosing

**Second2None** · 08-22-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by bpm1

yup, 800mg the first wk only after that assume regular dosing

ARE you kidding? or for real?
bump i got to know this one

**briancb1** · 08-22-2007, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Second2None

ARE you kidding? or for real?
bump i got to know this one

Umm whats the problem? Who's kidding?
Im considering frontloading because waiting 5-6 weeks is not ideal as I'm sure most people would agree. I would get NPP but I can't afford to get enough...

**JackBauer** · 08-22-2007, 10:38 PM

i agree with you 100% brian... Frontloading explained-

that was a great post

**Second2None** · 08-22-2007, 10:55 PM

ive heard of test, but deca ? hey if its possiable thats great
so how much is a good front load on drol? LoL

**Second2None** · 08-22-2007, 11:03 PM

Im starting a cycle of
wk 1-10 test e 1000mg
wk 1-8 deca 600mg
wk 1-3 drol 50mg day
so my front load week would be
2000mg test e
1200mg deca
thats 4 shots of deca and 10 shots of teste in week 1? wow

**Kratos** · 08-22-2007, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Second2None

Im starting a cycle of
wk 1-10 test e 1000mg
wk 1-8 deca 600mg
wk 1-3 drol 50mg day
so my front load week would be
2000mg test e
1200mg deca
thats 4 shots of deca and 10 shots of teste in week 1? wow

I think you should be trying to get by with less test. 1 gram is really not needed as 600 mg of deca will do the heavy lifting in your cycle. Mabe back the test down to 500 mg. Just a thought.

**hauss man** · 08-22-2007, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by JackBauer

i agree with you 100% brian... Frontloading explained-

that was a great post

that never made sense to me.

test e has a 4.5 day half life and the tests are based on a steroid with a 7 day half life

correct me if i am wrong

**Second2None** · 08-22-2007, 11:35 PM

i was thinking that but isnt it better to run test higher than deca ?
more test = more muscle, more strength, more size, and less fat.
i got his from
http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Enanthate.php
10th paragraphdown

**JackBauer** · 08-22-2007, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by hauss man

that never made sense to me.

test e has a 4.5 day half life and the tests are based on a steroid with a 7 day half life

correct me if i am wrong

i believe enanthate has a 3.5 day half life.

**HardCharger** · 08-23-2007, 12:28 AM

800mg's the first week only is correct.

2g's of test in one week, havent done that...yet. It wouldnt take 10 shots though, that just depends on how you brewed it. I run my test-e @ 600mg-700mgs a week, so I brew my stuff to 350mg/ml.

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Second2None

ive heard of test, but deca ? hey if its possiable thats great
so how much is a good front load on drol? LoL

any long estered compound can be frontloaded, and even though im with kratos that some of ur doses are high you could still frontload them as is.as for d-rol i think u know the answer to that,lol

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Second2None

i was thinking that but isnt it better to run test higher than deca ?
more test = more muscle, more strength, more size, and less fat.
i got his from
http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Enanthate.php
10th paragraphdown

the answer is no to this as deca is completely suppressive to endogenous test but has no effect on exogenous levels.as long as u r supplementing ur test enough to keep ur levels normal u'll be fine. im running 300mg test ew along with 600mg of deca ew and my libido is through the roof. and deca has greater muscle mass building potential than test in my understanding.

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by hauss man

that never made sense to me.

test e has a 4.5 day half life and the tests are based on a steroid with a 7 day half life

correct me if i am wrong

i'll try to explain if i understood ur question, why inject every 3.5-4 days? if that was the question the answer is because ur blood plasma levels are stable until the 5th day (with cyp and enanthate ) so injecting every 4th day keeps levels stable and that equals a better cycle with less sides

**hauss man** · 08-23-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by bpm1

i'll try to explain if i understood ur question, why inject every 3.5-4 days? if that was the question the answer is because ur blood plasma levels are stable until the 5th day (with cyp and enanthate) so injecting every 4th day keeps levels stable and that equals a better cycle with less sides

no frontloading never made sense.

the blood levels they showed were for a steroid with a 7 day half life, i thought test e had a 4.5 day half life

i personally dont feel frontloading is necessary. people tend to feel results at about 4-7 weeks. its not because of their blood levels its because testosterone has a cumulative effect and results are not going to be felt over night. also why frontload if your using an oral like dbol

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by hauss man

no frontloading never made sense.

the blood levels they showed were for a steroid with a 7 day half life, i thought test e had a 4.5 day half life

i personally dont feel frontloading is necessary. people tend to feel results at about 4-7 weeks. its not because of their blood levels its because testosterone has a cumulative effect and results are not going to be felt over night. also why frontload if your using an oral like dbol

the point of frontloading really is to get ur blood levels up and stable quickly as this aids to the cycle (u can also shorten the cycle as well), i used a d-rol kicker and frontloaded as well, just my preference. even with frontloading it takes a few wks(i felt them in 3wks as opposed to the 6wks on my first cycle) to feel the effects so an oral is ideal IMO. it comes down to goals and preferences i think. as far as half life of test e i'll have to find that again(its somewhere) but im sure levels r stable until day 5

**Second2None** · 08-23-2007, 11:01 AM

so how much would you front load if you were runing 1000mgs of test e for 10wks

**Second2None** · 08-23-2007, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Second2None

so how much would you front load if you were runing 1000mgs of test e for 10wks

ive also seen the post if you shot every 3day then your blood levels still go up and down a bit

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Second2None

so how much would you front load if you were runing 1000mgs of test e for 10wks

2 grams total, example mon-1 gram....... friday-1 gram, resume normal dosing

**bpm1** · 08-23-2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Second2None

ive also seen the post if you shot every 3day then your blood levels still go up and down a bit

i jab every 4th day with cyp/e it keeps levels the MOST stable from what ive read. i dont think its possible to keep blood levels at one exact point without a little fluctuation. u will find the concensis is every 3.5-4 days with any long estered compound.