Thread: First Cycle
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08-27-2007, 01:05 PM #1
First Cycle
I know your all going whoo hoo another thread about a first cycle. But hey I'm excided. After much thought I decided on my first cycle I'd say its pretty average for a first cycler. Although many vets don't like to see dbol in a first cycle.
week 1-12 Test E 500mg weekly (250mg mon/thurs)
week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
a standard PCT of Clomid and Nolva obviously 14 days after last injection.
getting enough nolva to run during the cycle if necessary, but I'm hoping that I won't have any major sides, as well as Letro as a just in case. I haven't been able to find a shelf like for Letro but seems to be good to have around for anyone who cycles anyway.
My main concern right now is acne, It runs in my fam and I already have it though not bad. I ran 6-oxo before and noticed it got worst so I can only imagine with the extra test floating around in there. Anyone here already prone to acne and have any good advise?
Other than that I feel confident that all will go great, my workout ethics are good, I don't miss days. My diets great, I try to supplement as little as possible, other than daily vitamens/flax/fish oil and unavoidably ON Whey to keep my protien levels where they need to be. Although I do admit when in a time constraint I have replace a meal with muscle milk, or at the end of the night if I don't feel like cottage cheese for some night time cassien.
I'm 26
6-'1.5"
BF is an estimate around 10 give or take 1 I don't know u tell me.
195 lbs
What I really want to get out of this cycle is a good understanding of how my body is going to react to these drugs I'm introducing. I really think that I'll have a clearer picture of what the rest of my BB career will look like after that. That and I want to put as much lean mass on my frame as possible, if I need to cut after thats fine but bulking is my priority here. That said generally speaking if I'm hovering around 3000 cal now and I'm staying the same BF%, how much should I realistically increase my intake. I know its kinda trial and error given that everyones body makeup is a bit different, but sometimes its nice to think theres an easy answer.
Any constructive criticism is sure welcome!Last edited by Illusions; 09-24-2007 at 09:42 PM.
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08-27-2007, 06:12 PM #2
im prone to acne as well, im on week 5 of test e and no acne, you should be good with that but the dbol might cause a problem, and try to up those cals to 4000-5000 clean
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08-27-2007, 06:19 PM #3
i would love to see ur diet breakdown in the Diet forum as diet will dictate everything that happens while ur on cycle...
nothing wrong w/ dbol
acne is easily controlled for most people w/ dawn dishwashing soap.. it never made my skin peal and it nerfs almost allacne.. though some have issues w/ it.
as tall as u are i would say 210-220 would be a more ideal weight to start cyling at.. but to each their own.
i would revise ur pct though.. im not going to tell u how but go read up in the pct forum...
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08-27-2007, 06:23 PM #4
i had a small break out of acne on my pct. the shit is still there but its not bad so i just left it like that.
i'd say ur correct on the bf estimate. u got good arms but u need some chest and traps.
i'd up the cals too like jetsfan said..
thats all i got man, good luck on the cycle
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08-27-2007, 07:40 PM #5
Your pretty lean and shredded. It looks to me that you havn't hit your platau naturally. I bet you could put another 15-20lbs on with a good diet and hitting the gym hard.
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08-27-2007, 08:53 PM #6
Originally Posted by taiboxa
Originally Posted by taiboxa
Originally Posted by taiboxa
so PCT would be more like this
Day 1:
Clomid 300mg
Nolva 20mg
L-dex .25mg
Day 2 - 30:
Clomid 100mg
Nolva 20mg
L-dex .25mg
Day 31 - 37:
Nolva 20mg
L-dex .25mg
and I think I'll keep extra L-dex on hand for during the cycle instead of running Nolva for symtoms, as well as the Letro if as a last resort.
better?
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08-27-2007, 09:20 PM #7
So basicly this is my little shopping list as of right now
Test E - 6000mg
Dbol - 840mg
Clomid - 1800mg
Nolva - 1000mg
Letro - 30mg
Arimidex - 15mg
22 gauge 1.5 needles
obviously some things I may be getting more of ex. I've seen Letro sold in 30ml bottles so I'd have more like 75 mg
Other than that I think my math proper. lol I hope I can find all this stuff when the time comes. Nothing here is really out of the ordinary right? Meaning this gear is pretty basic stuff right?Last edited by Illusions; 08-27-2007 at 09:24 PM.
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