tren a gains

[dirtysouth]

how much can one actually expect to gain from tren a? Im 6'2" 185 and 10%bf, this would be my third cycle. Wanting to try the tren and prop blend, just curious as to see how much i could expect to gain from this cycle if diet is in check. Any help would be appreciated. thanks

[stocky121]

nobody could tell you mate there is to many variables to consider to give you a true answer

[Kratos]

If you continue to eat like a 6'2'' 185 lber not much

[dirtysouth]

would it be better than just using test e or sus250 alone

[dirtysouth]

lets say 100mgs or each eod for 6 weeks and a clean 4000 cal diet, what then? need some help please

[ottomaddox]

Still a very broad question with too many variables to list.

lets say 100mgs or each eod for 6 weeks and a clean 4000 cal diet, what then? need some help please

[mario_ps2]

Still a very broad question with too many variables to list.

I guess you want to know about the average gains one would gain using test a considering that his diet and training are in check.

[goalseeker]

I guess you want to know about the average gains one would gain using test a considering that his diet and training are in check.

Tren A. I ran it at 100mg/ed for 8 weeks. Which I found out was too long, but anyways I didnt really gain all that much. We are all different though, and I can tell you Tren is something to run after your well experienced in cycles. I would suggest for you to not run it this early, but its your choice.. Its very powerful gear. I ran it on my 7th cycle...

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Tren A. I ran it at 100mg/ed for 8 weeks. Which I found out was too long, but anyways I didnt really gain all that much. We are all different though, and I can tell you Tren is something to run after your well experienced in cycles. I would suggest for you to not run it this early, but its your choice.. Its very powerful gear. I ran it on my 7th cycle...

^^^^ I agree, wait. This is my 7th as well and first time with tren.

The funny thing is, when you bulk with it, your weight doesn't go up as fast as you would like cuz fat is also being burnt off (even on a bulking diet) and when you cut, your weight doesn't go down as fast cuz you are putting on muscle despite the low cals. However, if you strictly look at LBM gains... you'll be shocked! When I bulked with it, I put on a mere 11 lbs in 6 weeks but lost 2 inches on my waist...that's how powerful the stuff is...and so are the side effects...do not under-estimate them!!! You HAVE to be experienced to deal with the sides, because they are enough to throw you off course if you lack discipline. Leave it as the last weapon in your arsenal and something to look forward to!

[dirtysouth]

well i plan on running 100mgs tren a and 100mgs prop eod, are you saying i should run a few more cycles before i try it? Ive had a few friends run it on there second and third cycles and had pretty damn good gains, im just curious as to why wait? what would be some suggestions then if i decide not to run the tren and prop, my main goal is to bulk ive done dbol alone, deca and dbol, and test and deca all with great results.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

well i plan on running 100mgs tren a and 100mgs prop eod, are you saying i should run a few more cycles before i try it? Ive had a few friends run it on there second and third cycles and had pretty damn good gains, im just curious as to why wait? what would be some suggestions then if i decide not to run the tren and prop, my main goal is to bulk ive done dbol alone, deca and dbol, and test and deca all with great results.

I am glad you asked.

Your friends may have had great gains..true...but that's as good as it gets! They've hit the "holy grail" of steroids...do you think they will ever go back to the lesser compounds? They'll probably try with other gear, find the gains inferior and continue cycling tren until even that will yield mediocre gains. How about diet/discipline...with a compound that allows you more leeway in your diet, do you think they will ever take discipline seriously? Of course, they are always exceptions to the rule but these are just a few issues to think about...

If running test/deca/dbol have all given great results to you...then keep with it until you body becomes complacent. Then go for clean bulk/cutting type compounds like EQ, anavar, or masteron to really sculpt and harden the muscles you grew from your previous cycles, which probably gave you size but not so much definition or shape (deca/dbol). When you gain experience with all these compounds' usage and properties, you will know exactly how to handle tren safely and most effectively. Just wait after 2-3 more cycles and you'll appreciate the boost tren will give you. It's still up to you...this is just my humble 2 cents

cheers

[dirtysouth]

i really appreciate the info, i will def take into consideration

[Lexed]

everyones body is different and each body reacts differently to each compound it all depends. What foods you eat and how you train are also big factors

[kfrost06]

I am glad you asked.

Your friends may have had great gains..true...but that's as good as it gets! They've hit the "holy grail" of steroids...do you think they will ever go back to the lesser compounds? They'll probably try with other gear, find the gains inferior and continue cycling tren until even that will yield mediocre gains. How about diet/discipline...with a compound that allows you more leeway in your diet, do you think they will ever take discipline seriously? Of course, they are always exceptions to the rule but these are just a few issues to think about...

If running test/deca/dbol have all given great results to you...then keep with it until you body becomes complacent. Then go for clean bulk/cutting type compounds like EQ, anavar, or masteron to really sculpt and harden the muscles you grew from your previous cycles, which probably gave you size but not so much definition or shape (deca/dbol). When you gain experience with all these compounds' usage and properties, you will know exactly how to handle tren safely and most effectively. Just wait after 2-3 more cycles and you'll appreciate the boost tren will give you. It's still up to you...this is just my humble 2 cents

cheers

^^Good Post!

[pr0digy9daniel]

Uhh how many cycles have u done before?

[Mr Tick]

I am glad you asked.

Your friends may have had great gains..true...but that's as good as it gets! They've hit the "holy grail" of steroids...do you think they will ever go back to the lesser compounds? They'll probably try with other gear, find the gains inferior and continue cycling tren until even that will yield mediocre gains. How about diet/discipline...with a compound that allows you more leeway in your diet, do you think they will ever take discipline seriously? Of course, they are always exceptions to the rule but these are just a few issues to think about...

If running test/deca/dbol have all given great results to you...then keep with it until you body becomes complacent. Then go for clean bulk/cutting type compounds like EQ, anavar, or masteron to really sculpt and harden the muscles you grew from your previous cycles, which probably gave you size but not so much definition or shape (deca/dbol). When you gain experience with all these compounds' usage and properties, you will know exactly how to handle tren safely and most effectively. Just wait after 2-3 more cycles and you'll appreciate the boost tren will give you. It's still up to you...this is just my humble 2 cents

cheers

Great post. IMO it answers his question fully!!!!

[goalseeker]

ya this post has great info.. good to see all the bros pitchin in!!

[dirtysouth]

thanks for all the help guys,
i think ill run
test e 600mgs,1-12
eq 500mgs, 1-12
dbol 40mgs.1-4

ive ran sus before but want to run a diff test just to see the diff and also wanna try the eq cuz ive done deca as well. Does that look like a good one?

[mkv213]

would it be better than just using test e or sus250 alone

Sure, if your daily caloric intake is correct. You're only going to grow depending on your daily protein/caloric intake and training intensity.

It's like building a house, you can have 100 ppl (AAS) there to build it but if you don't have the wood (food) to build it, you're not going to have a house in the end.

[mkv213]

I am glad you asked.

Your friends may have had great gains..true...but that's as good as it gets! They've hit the "holy grail" of steroids...do you think they will ever go back to the lesser compounds? They'll probably try with other gear, find the gains inferior and continue cycling tren until even that will yield mediocre gains. How about diet/discipline...with a compound that allows you more leeway in your diet, do you think they will ever take discipline seriously? Of course, they are always exceptions to the rule but these are just a few issues to think about...



cheers

I agree with the last part here about diet and discipline. After years of cycling everything I could get my hands on...I've learned that it ALL boils down to diet and discipline.

As far as using tren and never wanting to go back to lesser compounds...not true. I love tren and have ran it consecutive cycles in the past. But I actually prefer NPP. I stopped using tren as often because I just can't stand waking up from a half awake/half asleep zombie like state, all soaked in sweat, laying on wet sheets. I tend to swith back and for throughout the year. 2months tren, 1 month long androgen break then 3 months of npp.

I get almost as good of gains with NPP as I do tren w/o the sides and it's MUCH cheaper. Sure, NPP the strength/size gains are slower than tren but it's so much less taxing on the body and all in all, I end up w/ the same results in the end.