Don't know how you guys do it....

**batlin** · 08-30-2007, 09:10 PM

Man, this sh*t is TOUGH supertest... hurts like a mother fvcker... It didnt start out so bad, i am on week 4.. but it is progressively getting worse, i almost couldnt get out of bed and getting into my car is almost impossible.. feels like i got hit by a freight train! ugh...

**Amorphic** · 08-30-2007, 09:11 PM

What is your cycle. Whats the concentration of the test? How many mls are you injecting and where?

**Merc..** · 08-30-2007, 09:16 PM

250 ???????

Merc.

**Prada** · 08-30-2007, 09:17 PM

Supertest in know to be painful. Massage site and take warm shower.

**batlin** · 08-30-2007, 09:43 PM

450 mg / ml ...
1 cc 2x a week

I have tried cutting with cottonseed and grape seed...
seems like each injection is hurting more and more...

**Merc..** · 08-30-2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

450 mg / ml ...
1 cc 2x a week

I have tried cutting with cottonseed and grape seed...
seems like each injection is hurting more and more...

My bad I was for some reason thinking of some mex vet grade , super test 250..

Merc.

**goalseeker** · 08-30-2007, 09:55 PM

oh how I remember the days.. funny you mention the car thing.. when I first started prop, it was frickin brutal.. I had to walk down the hallway at work, limping, telling people I had a bad charlie horse.. then my buddys would laugh theyre nuts off whenever I went to get in and out of my car.. the pain was frickin brutal.. I literally could not get in and out without it taking me 60 seconds.. we used to laugh about it later.....

**batlin** · 08-30-2007, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

oh how I remember the days.. funny you mention the car thing.. when I first started prop, it was frickin brutal.. I had to walk down the hallway at work, limping, telling people I had a bad charlie horse.. then my buddys would laugh theyre nuts off whenever I went to get in and out of my car.. the pain was frickin brutal.. I literally could not get in and out without it taking me 60 seconds.. we used to laugh about it later.....

Yup you pretty much described my self, I was on prop but could not do this EVERY day.... so i moved to 2x a week with the super test

**Kratos** · 08-30-2007, 10:20 PM

Cut it with some sterile oil

**goalseeker** · 08-31-2007, 07:40 AM

I tried cutting it with B12 at the time.. didnt do squat... Starting my 2nd cycle took care of the prop pain. Guess my body got used to it.. Starting my 8th cycle tomorrow frontloading prop and then going 12 weeks so we'll see if theres pain or not...curious to see cuz its been 3/4 of a year since my last one..

**Markosterone** · 08-31-2007, 07:48 AM

used prop and usin supertest now, both hurt like hell, and both times it was cut with something else...

injecting 2x a week, using the muscle that hurts the least off all.

try delt and thigh, I like thigh. injecting in each once a week....

**batlin** · 08-31-2007, 08:04 AM

Yea i cut it 1:1 with steril oil already...

Right now pretty much do what the last guy said.. inject into the muscle that doesnt hurt as much.... Iv done delt and my arm blew up about 2x and hurt like a mother.. right now my right quad barley can move.. and i get to inject again today and I am a little scared...
wish i had some test e that i could switch too but oh well.. i just have to man up.. but DAMN this sh*t hurts!!!

**Merc..** · 08-31-2007, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

Yea i cut it 1:1 with steril oil already...

Right now pretty much do what the last guy said.. inject into the muscle that doesnt hurt as much.... Iv done delt and my arm blew up about 2x and hurt like a mother.. right now my right quad barley can move.. and i get to inject again today and I am a little scared...
wish i had some test e that i could switch too but oh well.. i just have to man up.. but DAMN this sh*t hurts!!!

Are you loading the test first when your drawing from your vial? Or do you draw the oil up first than draw your test??

Merc.

**pimpdawgin** · 08-31-2007, 08:16 AM

It's stories like this that make me want to avoid injectables and just go for an all-oral cycle.

**hometown** · 08-31-2007, 08:45 AM

why does some test do that, is it the quality of the test I can do 3cc @
200mg per cc and not have a problem. (using test cyp watson)

**batlin** · 08-31-2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Are you loading the test first when your drawing from your vial? Or do you draw the oil up first than draw your test??

Merc.

I load the test, then load the oil, so i can see a pretty definite line and i inject the oil first then the test goes in....

**HardCharger** · 08-31-2007, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by hometown

why does some test do that, is it the quality of the test I can do 3cc @
200mg per cc and not have a problem. (using test cyp watson)

Its the different esters that cause the pain.

Ahh, I did my first prop cycle almost a year ago.... i think. Getting out of my huge ass jeep was.... there's no words to describe it, but it hurt. I was hitting 7-8 diffent muscles. each delt, quad, glute, and bi. I could only go 1/2 ml per bi though because of the pain. But having so many different sites helped. Watch out for the first glute shot though!

**batlin** · 08-31-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by HardCharger

Its the different esters that cause the pain.

Ahh, I did my first prop cycle almost a year ago.... i think. Getting out of my huge ass jeep was.... there's no words to describe it, but it hurt. I was hitting 7-8 diffent muscles. each delt, quad, glute, and bi. I could only go 1/2 ml per bi though because of the pain. But having so many different sites helped. Watch out for the first glute shot though!

Yea I have a lifted Jeep too and it is impossible to get into it these days

**HardCharger** · 08-31-2007, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

Yea I have a lifted Jeep too and it is impossible to get into it these days

Yeah, it sucks looking like a freak trying to slide up in to it on my stomach on glute days.

**Merc..** · 08-31-2007, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by hometown

why does some test do that, is it the quality of the test I can do 3cc @
200mg per cc and not have a problem. (using test cyp watson)

People use different recipes when compounding . Thats why some prop is painless and some is not. There are different views on this but I think it has something to do with BA . Some compounding pharmacies that I have used use a ton of BA and when I use different compounding pharms with a different recipe it doesnt hurt..

merc.

**Merc..** · 08-31-2007, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by batlin

I load the test, then load the oil, so i can see a pretty definite line and i inject the oil first then the test goes in....

Cutting it with sterile oil usually works for most people. But I think it has to do with your high concentration of supertest . Its very painful..

Merc.

**batlin** · 08-31-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Cutting it with sterile oil usually works for most people. But I think it has to do with your high concentration of supertest . Its very painful..

Merc.

should i maybe do 2 : 1 oil : test?
like 2 cc oil and 1 cc test?

**Merc..** · 08-31-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

should i maybe do 2 : 1 oil : test?
like 2 cc oil and 1 cc test?

You could try 1.5 ml oil and 1 ml test i suppose.

Merc.

**batlin** · 08-31-2007, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

You could try 1.5 ml oil and 1 ml test i suppose.

Merc.

I think i am going to try 1m oil and .5 cc in each glute..
see how it does, either i wont be able to sit tomorrow or ill be good

**rabidsquirrel** · 08-31-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

oh how I remember the days.. funny you mention the car thing.. when I first started prop, it was frickin brutal.. I had to walk down the hallway at work, limping, telling people I had a bad charlie horse.. then my buddys would laugh theyre nuts off whenever I went to get in and out of my car.. the pain was frickin brutal.. I literally could not get in and out without it taking me 60 seconds.. we used to laugh about it later.....

yeah at the end of my last cycle i had this problem. i told people i pulled a muscle doing squat since it hurt every damn week. they beleived me. exspect my friend they just laughed. bit**es

**batlin** · 09-02-2007, 10:46 AM

Ok,looks like i figured out what works for me and this freaken monster supertest...

1/2CC Supertest with 1 CC oil.. and I do two injections that day in two spots... so far 2 days and only a very mild ache...

**batlin** · 09-02-2007, 10:46 AM

Which by the way.. took the pain (which i would rank a 9 out of 10, 10 being your leg doesnt work anymore) to a 2

**Merc..** · 09-02-2007, 10:50 AM

Glad to hear it...

Thanks for the update Batlin !!!

Merc.

**batlin** · 09-02-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Glad to hear it...

Thanks for the update Batlin !!!

Merc.

NO NO, THANK YOU!!!!! for the suggestions!

**Markosterone** · 09-02-2007, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

Ok,looks like i figured out what works for me and this freaken monster supertest...

1/2CC Supertest with 1 CC oil.. and I do two injections that day in two spots... so far 2 days and only a very mild ache...

this is what I do but I use deca instead of oil

also, I mix it in the syringe and heat it up before I inject, this way it blends with the deca nicely...

use a hairdryer to heat it up. also, inject slowly.

try this out and let me know what you think.

have you seen any gains in strenght yet ?

**Tbone1975** · 09-02-2007, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by batlin

Man, this sh*t is TOUGH supertest... hurts like a mother fvcker... It didnt start out so bad, i am on week 4.. but it is progressively getting worse, i almost couldnt get out of bed and getting into my car is almost impossible.. feels like i got hit by a freight train! ugh...

Simply put, it is the second worst gear I've ever used. I hate it. Second in terms of pain too. The worst was 500mgs/ml test enanthate .