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09-01-2007, 08:35 PM #1
How much lean mass can you gain in a cycle?
I'm trying to figure out my diet for my first cycle. To do that I need to know how much lean muscle mass can be obtained in a 12 week cycle of:
week 1-12 Test E 500mg weekly (250mg mon/thurs)
week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
I don't know if thats a loaded question, meaning that everyones physiology is too different to tell. Or is the a round about number like 25 lbs of lean muscle mass are possibly attainable or 35 lbs etc...
Now lets see if my math is correct, if 25 lbs in the cycle that I described is an accurate attainable number and for the sake of argument my BMR is 3000cal per day:
25lbs/ 12 weeks = 2.083lbs per week
3500cal* 2.083lbs =7290.5 extra cal per week
7290.5cal/ 7days = 1041.5 extra cal per day
3000cal (BMR)+ 1041.5extra cal =4041.5cal per day
So to actually gain that 25lbs in 12 weeks I would have to be consuming roughly 4041.5 cal per day. Is that a good way to figure this out? or should I be consuming even more cal per day to that?
If it helps in figuring out the max possible lean mass increase in my first cycle:
I'm 26
6-'1.5"
BF 9-10%
200 lbs
Sorry I know this question sort of fits into the diet category as well but I had to pick one so ...
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09-01-2007, 10:49 PM #2Originally Posted by Big Boss
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09-01-2007, 10:58 PM #3Originally Posted by Big Boss
if they werent ready for aas then maybe 15 but anyone w/ a proper base is very unlikely to acquire that much LBM
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09-01-2007, 10:58 PM #4Originally Posted by taiboxa
could be possible on a first cycle....I remember my first cycle ever...eight years ago now...I went from 170 to 210 off sust and d-bol and in the end stayed at around 195. My first cycle had the best gains ever...I wish I knew then what I know now about sust...what a waste that was.
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09-01-2007, 11:05 PM #5Originally Posted by Big Boss
the multiple esters cause more fluctuations in blood levels in most cases where as a single ester are much easier to manipulate.
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09-01-2007, 11:12 PM #6Originally Posted by Big Boss
I have to say .... Sust for the most part is garbage. why would you base a 10 week cycle with four different esters mixed into your test? 1 amp a week dude....whew...I cant agree with you at all on that.
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09-01-2007, 11:22 PM #7Originally Posted by Big Boss
2ndly that post is idiotic, do you really truly think im unaware of how a ester group effects a molecule?.. congrats you increased your testosterone per mg by 20% in all honesty thats pointless where as you would still get more raw testosterone from 1 ml of a 250mg/ml dosing fo testE than you would from a 100mg/ml Test suspension thus you sir are AN IDIOT.. take ur ROSS LIKE PARROTRY some where else.
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I blow up like a balloon on suspension ..
Merc
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09-01-2007, 11:37 PM #9Originally Posted by Big Boss
just for once.. stop cut'n'pasting and think before you repond.
THE ESTER ONLY AFFECTS THE RATE OF DEGREDATION! thats it for the love of god man..
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09-02-2007, 06:57 AM #10
holy hi-jack, lol.
So the million dollar answer to my question is... I'll have to wait and see... unless someone else has a say in the matter?
Either way I'm going to keep my cal intake high, it is a bulking cycle after all.
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09-02-2007, 08:50 AM #11Originally Posted by Illusions
only reason im saying this is i like your avie ><
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09-02-2007, 09:43 AM #12
hahaha I will, thanks
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09-06-2007, 12:46 AM #15Originally Posted by lookintogetbig
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