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i know when on test, your sperm count will typically drop quite dramatically, making it far more difficult to get someone pregnant. just wondering if you do hrt and take hcg a few times a year to prevent testicular atrophy if the hcg increases sperm count and increases your chances?
just asking out of curiosity. regretfully i aint getting any right now :shrug:
Yes it does
it does so long u don't abuse it.
Hcg treatment is sometimes used to treat oligozoospermia (low sperm count).Quote:
Originally Posted by ascendant
Although ( from the studies I have seen pertaining to this)
It only seems to be effective in men with low levels of FSH and LH and experiencing some short of atrophy ( nutz shrinking) .
Its does not have a effect on healthy men..
Merc.
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OOPS it double posted ......
Merc.
are you asking if it boost your natural sperm count, or shutdown sperm count?
well i mean like if you're on hrt for a long time and because of it your sperm count is down i was asking if the hcg would boost it back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by buffgator
HCG and Clomid are used in females as fertility drugs. They induce ovulation and since your balls are very simliar to ovaries...it should do the same in you if you have a low sperm count
WOW. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dizz28
they are...and they respond to the same things
hormonal injections of gonadotropins are only useful in stimulating sperm production in azoospermic men ( zero sperm count) who have hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (men with low FSH and LH levels, because of hypothalamic or pituitary malfunction), but this is a very rare condition. In these men, treatment often takes many months to restore the sperm quality to fertile levels. Unfortunately, these injections are often misused as therapy in men with low sperm counts - with extremely disappointing results. Since the vast majority of infertile males have normal levels of these hormones, unfortunately, giving them additional injections does not help to boost their sperm production. When you are on testosterone it is similar to hypogonadotropic hypogonadism, a fertility doc would most likely include HMG for a period along with HCG.
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Originally Posted by Merc.
Kratos ,
Please see my above
From what I have researched is used to treat oligozoospermia (less than 20 million sperm per ml ) not in azoospermia ( complete lack of measurable sperm).
So it seems the studies on this are conflicting . Whats you thought ???
Merc.
Tisk Tisk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc.
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Originally Posted by unclemoney
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Merc.
Oligozoospermia is often idiopathic and rarely related to LH levels. In cases where LH levels are to blame treetment would likely be successful. Even with idiopatic oligozoospermia there are some responders but the increase in sperm count is not huge, and oddly the people who usually respond have low testosterone levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc.
Back to the question though, azoospermia is usually the result when someone is on HRT, and HCG/HMG treetment is usually succesful in restoring spermatogenesis in this case.
Yes it does seem in cases where the cause is unknown this is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kratos
There where a few studies that appear to be incorrect.
I just wanted your thoughts on it.
Thanks for w e i g h i n g in kratos..
Merc.
shell get pregnant if you take some android (trust me i know) thats if your trying for that. but for increase sperm count on hcg...no clue man
Well, at any rate...I just want to put it out there that I would like to be sterile until I'm mid-30's. I hate condoms, I've heard way too many stories of dudes getting thier girls knocked up while they were on the pill also...It's pretty sad when I'm acually hopeing my wife has her period so I know there's a good chance that she not with child.
I would love to have kids but just not anytime soon
Just thought I would let ya'll know that...not that anyone cares :frown: :frown:
My husband has a low sperm count at about 1.3 mil. We are trying to get pregnant for over one year. I am doing some research about what he should try to increase his numbers. We cant afford the fertility clinic we were referred to and insurance doesn't cover any tests or treatments. So we are going to need to save up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kratos
Clomid or HCG ? One lady I spoke with said her husband took 250ui 2-3 times a week of HCG for 3-4 months and this in addition to vitamins increased his count and resulted in a pregnancy. She also recommended Clomid 25-50 mg a day (25days on 5 days off) and 1mg Arimidex daily for 3 months as an alternative treatment. He has not taken any steroids for about 8 years but still works out regularly.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Many guys have got their lady's pregnant while on TRT with the use of HCG, so it can indeed increase sperm count and enhance your chances of getting pregnant.
Why would he take arimidex? 1mg a day is A LOT of dex and wouldn't be needed. That's terrible advice imo. Has he had bloods done to see where his levels are.?? I would never self prescribe myself anything until I seen BW.
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True, although if I recall correctly I believe the doses of HCG for spermatogenetic or ovulatory induction are much higher at about 3000iu per week. Not certain. I'd have to check the literature and prescribing guidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRDave
Doses are indeed higher for fertility purposes, but many have had kids with the normal 500-1000iu weekly with their TRT regimen. Only takes one swimmer :-pQuote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
Would make more sense to use hMG if fertility is of concern.
I have read a lot about HMG as well to increase sperm count but I am having a difficult time finding it. Also I can't seem to find an answer about dosage for HCG+HMG combo. If he is only taking HCG and HMG for fertility purposes what would be a good dose and how often?Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite