sustanon cycle

[rampage12]

i have a question about a cycle i was thinking of doing or if it is even a good cycle to do? i was wanting to do i bottle of sustanon and i bottle of deca with about 200 d bol over 8 week cycle. 1 ml sust/ 1 ml deca 3 dbol per day week 1 and 2 1ml sust/ 1 ml deca 4 d bol per day week 3 2ml sust/ 2 ml deca 5 dbol per day week 4 and 5 1ml sust/ 1 ml deca 4 d bol per day week 6 1ml sust/ 1 ml deca 3 d bol per day week 7 and 8 shots taken once per week and what would be a good pct? and should i use nolva during cycle?

[Big]

first we need your stats, then write out your proposed cycle

[rampage12]

my cycle that i want to is in the other post its just hard to under stand the way i wrote it.
week 1 and 2--1ml sust/1 ml deca and 3 d bol
week 3-- 1 ml sust/ 1ml deca 4 dbol
week 4 and 5-- 2ml sust/ 2 ml deca 5 dbol
week 6-- 1 ml sust/ 1ml deca 4 dbol
week 7 and 8-- 1 ml sust/ 1ml deca 3 dbol

[taiboxa]

horrible cycle.

[rampage12]

i am a little tight on cash so i cant do a hudge cycle, thats why i whanted to know if this would work or if i should just do sust and d bol? 6'0 185lb 26

[taiboxa]

i am a little tight on cash so i cant do a hudge cycle, thats why i whanted to know if this would work or if i should just do sust and d bol? 6'0 185lb 26

first off pyramidding long esters is pointless and waste of time. pick a dose and stick w/ it.

[rampage12]

first off pyramidding long esters is pointless and waste of time. pick a dose and stick w/ it.

what do you think would be a better cycle? i want to do sust for sure no test i want a lean mass gain.

[taiboxa]

what do you think would be a better cycle? i want to do sust for sure no test i want a lean mass gain.

you got alotta researching to do.. because i hate to break it to ya.. but sust IS test.

[rampage12]

you got alotta researching to do.. because i hate to break it to ya.. but sust IS test.

i know but it wont give as much as bloated gain as test ethenate will. ive took sust before and i liked it, i took it alone so i want to stack it this time.

[taiboxa]

i know but it wont give as much as bloated gain as test ethenate will. ive took sust before and i liked it, i took it alone so i want to stack it this time.

you are aware it has a decanoate ester in it which seems to induce as much or more water retention than enanthate ester right?

[rampage12]

no i did not. so in your opinion what would be a better cycle for me to gain alot of quality mass? no anadrol i took anadrol and didnt like it

[taiboxa]

both compounds u picked seem to induce bloat in majority of people.. but its a fine cycle assuming you are aware of the possible sides, active lifes, proper run times, and proper pct but imo you have a boat load of research ahead of you since you didnt even list out the mg's you were planning on taking. plus your dbol regimen isnt ideal either.. do you even know the mg's on the tabs your takin? if they are 5mgs then 5 aint going to do jack let alone 3

[rampage12]

both compounds u picked seem to induce bloat in majority of people.. but its a fine cycle assuming you are aware of the possible sides, active lifes, proper run times, and proper pct but imo you have a boat load of research ahead of you since you didnt even list out the mg's you were planning on taking. plus your dbol regimen isnt ideal either.. do you even know the mg's on the tabs your takin? if they are 5mgs then 5 aint going to do jack let alone 3

yes there 5 mg

[taiboxa]

yes there 5 mg

yeah.. u might wanna seriously research ALOT more before you start your cycle.

[goose]

Sus is for dicks,it`s for HRT.In fact,should probably stop looking at the four ester issue, and stick with totals (Sustanon is just a 250mg testosterone ampule). Were enanthate to be available for say $10 per amp of 250mg, and Sustanon priced nearly double that, buying the Sustanon would be like throwing money away. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down. Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better and let the clever guys buy IGF too.

[taiboxa]

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i think someone had a lil too much sugar today..

[rampage12]

i ve always had a problem with gyno thats y i wanted to do sust and not test cyp or eth

[taiboxa]

i ve always had a problem with gyno thats y i wanted to do sust and not test cyp or eth

YOU have got to be joking.. TEST IS effin TEST the aromtization is the same.. that statement right there (not trying to be rude) is a PRIME indication of your ingorance to exogenous hormone usage.. seroiusly you got a BOAT LOAD of reading to do.

[sdc]

If you don't want to bloat I'd cut out the dbol . Try just 500mg/wk of sust and throw in some winny, and you'll love it. From my experiences I get more water with ethenate. Personally I'd stay away from the decca. I find it really hard when you come off. Also for PCT clomid and nolva should be fine. But at the very least Nolva. I find it makes a big difference. I have done clomid only and with Nolva (Night and day)

[taiboxa]

If you don't want to bloat I'd cut out the dbol. Try just 500mg/wk of sust and throw in some winny, and you'll love it. From my experiences I get more water with ethenate. Personally I'd stay away from the decca. I find it really hard when you come off. Also for PCT clomid and nolva should be fine. But at the very least Nolva. I find it makes a big difference. I have done clomid only and with Nolva (Night and day)

for any cycle inducing complete suppression i would never do less than an AI and a SERM

[sdc]

I just noticed your last post about gyno. Keep your test levels low, or do an anti e all the way through. It's not worth getting gyno.

[goose]

i think someone had a lil too much sugar today..

WTF...Fixed.these pain killers man

[sdc]

(Sustanon is just a 250mg testosterone ampule). Were enanthate to be available for say $10 per amp of 250mg, and Sustanon priced nearly double that, buying the Sustanon would be like throwing money away. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down. Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better and let the clever guys buy IGF too.

I'm surprised suss is so expensive where u live. By me It's always been cheap. The same price as Enanthate . Plus Suss is always from a pharm. Not some ug lab. But that's here

[taiboxa]

WTF...Fixed.these pain killers man

LoL withdrawls are a bitch, my doc told me to taper mine down after i ****d up my neck.. I NO listen im TOO MANLY to taper dosage.. i just COLD turkey.. god im dumb ><

[rampage12]

ok so what about sust or test eth and equipoise ? would that be a good stack? and i was considering running nolva during my cycle for gyno would that work?

[goose]

I'm surprised suss is so expensive where u live. By me It's always been cheap. The same price as Enanthate. Plus Suss is always from a pharm. Not some ug lab. But that's here

Price was just an example,here in England sus is twice what you pay for E.Waste of cash,in this game it`s not what you buy,its how clever you are buying the right gear.Does it makes sence to spend twice as much and get the same results?? Does not matter how rich you are,the more you save..That HGH dose get bigger!!!

[taiboxa]

ok so what about sust or test eth and equipoise? would that be a good stack? and i was considering running nolva during my cycle for gyno would that work?

personally i HATE EQ more than anything.. lamest weakest shyt ever made..

test is great.. AT LOW DOSES i run a TRT dosing scheme for all my cycles and rely on MORE EFFECTIVE compounds to do the real work.

nor groups are a must IMO for big gains.. just make sure your pct is well prepared.

nolva is not ideal for gyno prevention.. its really only good for aiding lipid profile and helping w/ PCT. get an AI for gyno prevention.

[goose]

LoL withdrawls are a bitch, my doc told me to taper mine down after i ****d up my neck.. I NO listen im TOO MANLY to taper dosage.. i just COLD turkey.. god im dumb ><

Missed this post.Just got a little left shoulder problem.Will be OK soon.your not dumb your just silly...

[rampage12]

ok so ive decided on test enth and equipoise for 10 weeks
500mg test/ 500mg equi per week for 10 weeks
with arimidex during to help with my gyno and clomid and nolva after 2 weeks off cycle sound good?

[Dizz28]

^^ you are probably better off just running the 500mg test alone. EQ isn't worth the effort

[rampage12]

^^ you are probably better off just running the 500mg test alone. EQ isn't worth the effort

so ive heard im considering running tren with the 500 mg of test eth but im not sure how long to run it or how much?

[Dizz28]

so ive heard im considering running tren with the 500 mg of test eth but im not sure how long to run it or how much?

there you go..now you're listening

grab a couple bottles of tren and run it 50mgs every other day. That should be plenty your first time

[rampage12]

there you go..now you're listening

grab a couple bottles of tren and run it 50mgs every other day. That should be plenty your first time

should i take anything for the prolactin side affects? and should i still do the 500mg of test with it? would armidex work for gyno during the cycle?

[rampage12]

how should i take the tren and what should i stack it with?

[rampage12]

heres what i decided 50mg tren / 50mg test every other day but i need a good anti gyno to run with it and a good pct what is a good pct?


do cycle for 10-12 weeks

[Dizz28]

heres what i decided 50mg tren / 50mg test every other day but i need a good anti gyno to run with it and a good pct what is a good pct?


do cycle for 10-12 weeks

Is that test Prop? Or test enanthate ?

[rampage12]

Is that test Prop? Or test enanthate?

i think im gonna get prop. should i run t3 with this cycle?

[Dizz28]

you're pretty ambitious...You should just stick to the basics for your first one

Have you ever used Prop? Some people get some serious pain from it so unless you know you can deal with it for the whole cycle maybe you should stick with Test C. or E.

Anyway, I think you would be alright with just Test E. at maybe 500mgs per week

Keep all the T3/T4 and tren until later on when you have some experience with the basics

[rampage12]

you're pretty ambitious...You should just stick to the basics for your first one

Have you ever used Prop? Some people get some serious pain from it so unless you know you can deal with it for the whole cycle maybe you should stick with Test C. or E.

Anyway, I think you would be alright with just Test E. at maybe 500mgs per week

Keep all the T3/T4 and tren until later on when you have some experience with the basics

ive done a couple of cycles of cypionate and d bol before i want to bump it up a notch .i just thought i should take letro and t3 with the tren

[Dizz28]

ive done a couple of cycles of cypionate and d bol before i want to bump it up a notch .i just thought i should take letro and t3 with the tren

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