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    Unhappy PLEASE!! Help me make my 1st and only cycle a good one!!

    Currently planning a cycle of Test E for 12 weeks. 500mg pw.

    As i may be prone to MPB, I will be running Durastide/Armidex during cycle and Durastide/Nolva/Aromasin for PCT.

    This will be my 1st and last cycle and i want it to be a good one.

    What else can i run alongside the test to give me the most lean mass gains with little or no bloat?

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    last one eh lol heard that many times...
    why even do it at all ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY_WD
    This will be my 1st and last cycle
    Yeah, right.

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    lol you guys are funny.

    no im serious, i'm only running this cycle to get where i want quicker.

    I dont want to be too big and think one cycle will be enough for me to reach my goal.

    but i figured since i was going to run a cycle, i want to make sure that i get the most gains from it.

    So, any ideas what i can run alongside the test?

    Or should i up my test dosage to 1000mg per week for last 6 weeks?

    Also, i put a pic of my gear in the pics section.

    Can you guys please have a look and let me know if legit.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY_WD
    lol you guys are funny.

    no im serious, i'm only running this cycle to get where i want quicker.

    I dont want to be too big and think one cycle will be enough for me to reach my goal.

    but i figured since i was going to run a cycle, i want to make sure that i get the most gains from it.

    So, any ideas what i can run alongside the test?

    Or should i up my test dosage to 1000mg per week for last 6 weeks?
    LOL DONT UP IT.. you never even ran 250 or even 500mg/wk why would u make such an insane jump on your first go.. what if you have some major hypertension induced via bloat and have a stroke and die.. that would be a downer. (though thats like a 0.0083%chance of happening)
    firstly what are your stats.. and i bet anything your diet is sub par in all honesty.
    lay out your stats and your diet and lets see what we have there. then we wll move on to exogenous hormones.

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    i was only going to do one cycle..I was scared of needles... now ed injections... oh well good luck buddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    LOL DONT UP IT.. you never even ran 250 or even 500mg/wk why would u make such an insane jump on your first go.. what if you have some major hypertension induced via bloat and have a stroke and die.. that would be a downer. (though thats like a 0.0083%chance of happening)
    firstly what are your stats.. and i bet anything your diet is sub par in all honesty.
    lay out your stats and your diet and lets see what we have there. then we wll move on to exogenous hormones.

    Dude if i listed my diet it would take me a day.

    Basically, i eat 4000-5000 Calories per day.
    Breakdown is approx. 45% protein, 35% Carbs 20% Fats

    Stats are:
    Age 23
    Weight: 206lbs.
    Height 6ft 1in
    Been lifting for 5 years.

    Current supps: ***** 3+6, Multi, Creatine, Protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY_WD
    Dude if i listed my diet it would take me a day.

    Basically, i eat 4000-5000 Calories per day.
    Breakdown is approx. 45% protein, 35% Carbs 20% Fats

    Stats are:
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    Weight: 206lbs.
    Height 6ft 1in
    Been lifting for 5 years.

    Current supps: ***** 3+6, Multi, Creatine, Protein.
    well then thats spot on, i hate to break it to ya but a test only cycle isnt going to give you a whole lotta gains but i really cant advocate you using a boatload of different compounds either...
    i'd say run proper test cycle.. see how it fares. i dont think u will go chrome dome w/ proper ancillaries. AND I REALLY doubt it will be ur first and last lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    well then thats spot on, i hate to break it to ya but a test only cycle isnt going to give you a whole lotta gains but i really cant advocate you using a boatload of different compounds either...
    i'd say run proper test cycle.. see how it fares. i dont think u will go chrome dome w/ proper ancillaries. AND I REALLY doubt it will be ur first and last lol.

    Isnt there a compound that is well known for gains in lean mass?

    What about NPP, Deca , Masteron ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY_WD
    Isnt there a compound that is well known for gains in lean mass?

    What about NPP, Deca, Masteron?
    deca is npp just different ester
    masteron is gold i like mast and win but i dont like how dht's affect me prostate, and im not fond of orals and how they affect my lipid profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    deca is npp just different ester
    masteron is gold i like mast and win but i dont like how dht's affect me prostate, and im not fond of orals and how they affect my lipid profile.

    With masteron did you find a size increase or more of just overall muscle hardening.

    Since i am taking Armidex during cycle do you think this would cover the DHT conversion from MAsteron and save my hair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    last one eh lol heard that many times...
    why even do it at all ?

    Lmao ditto

    Fist time, run test e or c 500mg a week split the shots. Run Armidex .25 daily and if your diet is clean you will have very little bloat...

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    masteron is dht based... no conversion needed. dutas or finasteride wont help you at all with any dht.All they do is inhibit dht conversion in test in my understanding. Nizoral and spiro are usually recomended. they are topicals that block dht in your scalp.
    Test e shold be a fine first cycle, if your diet is as good as you post i think you will have good gains. make sure to get all of your
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionairemurph
    masteron is dht based... no conversion needed. dutas or finasteride wont help you at all with any dht.All they do is inhibit dht conversion in test in my understanding. Nizoral and spiro are usually recomended. they are topicals that block dht in your scalp.
    Test e shold be a fine first cycle, if your diet is as good as you post i think you will have good gains. make sure to get all of your
    pins/syringes
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    before you start good luck

    Thanks dude, almost ready.
    Planning on starting beg of October. I will post results

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    HAHAHAHHA First and last



    As far as the MPB , i don't care what you take your going to lost it/thin at a faster rate then you are now.

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    First and last... ya, ok....

    Well I actually disagree with Tai when he says that test isn't all that great. It is the only compound I run 75% of the time. I love it solo. I think you will get good gains from it especially since yoru receptors are so fresh. Everything looks good. Good luck bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Lifts-a-lot
    First and last... ya, ok....

    Well I actually disagree with Tai when he says that test isn't all that great. It is the only compound I run 75% of the time. I love it solo. I think you will get good gains from it especially since yoru receptors are so fresh. Everything looks good. Good luck bro!

    Thanks dude

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    I don't see the point in running just one cycle. Once you go off, even if you run the perfect PCT, you are going to slowly lose those gains you made and end up back where you started. It might take several months but it will eventually happen. Cycling AAS only makes sense if you plan on doing it for a long extended period of time. That's my opinion anyhow.

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    If you want something to run with your test for good gains run EQ at 400 per week for 12 weeks. I ran test E and EQ my first cycle and had great results. You want to run the EQ for at least 12 weeks (I didn't, wished I would of) because it's such a slow gainer, but good for keeping gains. They are right you do one cycle and you are going to be hooked. you goals will get reached faster so you will just keep making new goals higher then the last ones.
    We all love it though right?

    Good luck man, just keep doing research.

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