Quick question

[bvdboy4life]

I've read that you can cut with any AAS. What do you guys think about using Clen while on a cycle of Deca and Sust? Can I take it during the cycle, or should I just wait til PCT to start it?

[taiboxa]

i wouldnt go into a caloric deficite while in pct.
clen imo isnt all that its cracked up to be but others have great success so i guess you'll just have to see for your self
on cycle would be most ideal if your going to diet.

[bvdboy4life]

Any chance of gaining any muscle mass stacking clen, sust and deca while on a calorie deficit?

[Amorphic]

Yeah you'll gain muscle mass from the nitrogen retention etc, but why would you want to do that? sust and deca are better for bulking, (well anything is really, depending on diet). If you were cutting why not use masteron or winny?

[Amorphic]

Edit:double post

[bvdboy4life]

Yeah you'll gain muscle mass from the nitrogen retention etc, but why would you want to do that? sust and deca are better for bulking, (well anything is really, depending on diet). If you were cutting why not use masteron or winny?

My friend is selling me his cycle because he's scared to inject and all he has is Sust, Deca, Clen and PCT stuff.

[pr0digy9daniel]

You can cut with any AAS, its all about diet. If you want to cut really fast, use Cytomel(T3) and Clen while on cycle (to stop muscle wasting)... I have some Liquid Cyto heading my way, and cant wait to cycle it...

Also, if you wanna cut well, I would recommend an AAS that didnt promote excess aromatisation or water retention... Low dose Test and Eq seem to work well...

[bvdboy4life]

You can cut with any AAS, its all about diet. If you want to cut really fast, use Cytomel(T3) and Clen while on cycle (to stop muscle wasting)... I have some Liquid Cyto heading my way, and cant wait to cycle it...

Also, if you wanna cut well, I would recommend an AAS that didnt promote excess aromatisation or water retention... Low dose Test and Eq seem to work well...

My friend also has T3 that he is willing to sell to me along with A-dex. So do you think a cycle of Deca, Sust, Clen, T3 and Arimidex would provide me with a good cutting cycle? I wish I could get Test Prop or Eq. But I might be able to get some Winny from another friend.

Here's my proposed cycle
Week
1 Frontload Sust 1000mg, Frontload Deca 800mg
2-10 Sust 500mg
2-8 Deca 400mg
5-10 Winstrol 50mg daily
1-10 .25mg Arimidex daily
1-10 Clen 60-100mg daily (two weeks on two weeks off)
1-6 T3 50mcg everyday

Then start my PCT two weeks after last Sust shot. I have Nolva and Clomid.

What do you guys think? I know Sust and Deca aren't the traditional cutters, but do you think it could work?

[pr0digy9daniel]

My friend also has T3 that he is willing to sell to me along with A-dex. So do you think a cycle of Deca, Sust, Clen, T3 and Arimidex would provide me with a good cutting cycle? I wish I could get Test Prop or Eq. But I might be able to get some Winny from another friend.

Here's my proposed cycle
Week
1 Frontload Sust 1000mg, Frontload Deca 800mg
2-10 Sust 500mg
2-8 Deca 400mg
5-10 Winstrol 50mg daily
1-10 .25mg Arimidex daily
1-10 Clen 60-100mg daily (two weeks on two weeks off)
1-6 T3 50mcg everyday

Then start my PCT two weeks after last Sust shot. I have Nolva and Clomid.

What do you guys think? I know Sust and Deca aren't the traditional cutters, but do you think it could work?

Uhm, well that will work but there are a few things to be aware of. Some people like to ramp up and down their T3. I think a better idea would be to start at 25mcg for a few days, then increase the dose by 25mcg gradually till you get to about 100mcg, and then do the same in reverse. This is just to make it easier on your body. The clen dose is fine, but I would run it for only 6 weeks with the T3. See how you respond to it with about 50mg(or mcg?) if you havent done it before, then go to about 80-100mg.

The cycle is fine, but its just a little more complicated than I would do. You only really need enough AAS to stop your muscles being catabolised by the T3. I would typically use something that is safe and doesnt cause aromatisation, water retention or gyno... A test/Eq cycle would work, and there are other light AAS you can use. If your trying to bulk at the same time, then test/Deca would work. I have never used Winstrol before, but from what I have read its fine to use...

Personally, if it was me I would want to run the cycle a little longer, maybe 12 weeks or even 14, only with sust at the end. But, thats cause I dont have any problems or sides doing that... The reason is just to give me time to get some more cardio and weight training in so I can maximise the weight loss...

Oh, and one more thing, I wouldnt use the arimidex at the start of the cycle. I would wait until your maybe half way through, or you start to get sides, bloating, etc... Its something thats good to have, but you dont really need it in your cycle except to solve problems. I personally prefer exemestane (aromasin) because I think its better. Anastrozole only cuts estrogen by about 50%...

[Big]

I've read that you can cut with any AAS. What do you guys think about using Clen while on a cycle of Deca and Sust? Can I take it during the cycle, or should I just wait til PCT to start it?

what are your stats?

[bvdboy4life]

what are your stats?

My stats
25 years old
5'8"
195 lbs
17-20% BF (looking to cut down to 13% or less)

I've been lifting for about 10 years off and on. Lately, I've been lifting for 8 months straight.

[pr0digy9daniel]

Thats a rather high BF percentage, if I were you I would keep running test or something along them lines, and use CLA and maybe some herbal/natural weight loss stuff. Its a better idea to lose the weight with exercise/lifting... All you need to do is eat less calories than you burn... Clen/T3 is something I would only use if you have trouble losing weight any other way... Also, have you had ur thyroid hormone tested. I have and it was low but it wasnt outside of the range, personally that was enough for me to want to try Cytomel.

My GP would only test my TSH level so I never knew what my T3/T4 or fT3/fT4 levels were at. Damn doctors, ive got one of those I am so smart and you are the dumb little patient guys...

[bvdboy4life]

Thats a rather high BF percentage, if I were you I would keep running test or something along them lines, and use CLA and maybe some herbal/natural weight loss stuff. Its a better idea to lose the weight with exercise/lifting... All you need to do is eat less calories than you burn... Clen/T3 is something I would only use if you have trouble losing weight any other way... Also, have you had ur thyroid hormone tested. I have and it was low but it wasnt outside of the range, personally that was enough for me to want to try Cytomel.

My GP would only test my TSH level so I never knew what my T3/T4 or fT3/fT4 levels were at. Damn doctors, ive got one of those I am so smart and you are the dumb little patient guys...

I've been using Lipo6 and Hydroxy Hard Core and I don't think I'm feeling any of the effects of it anymore. Would it be okay to run Clen and T3 without any AAS? I've read that T3 can be really catabolic if not used with AAS. I'm thinking that I should lose 15 lbs of fat and then do a bulking cycle with the Sust and Deca.

[pr0digy9daniel]

I've been using Lipo6 and Hydroxy Hard Core and I don't think I'm feeling any of the effects of it anymore. Would it be okay to run Clen and T3 without any AAS? I've read that T3 can be really catabolic if not used with AAS. I'm thinking that I should lose 15 lbs of fat and then do a bulking cycle with the Sust and Deca.

Not unless you wanna lose alot of muscle... I might think about it if the T3 dosage was very low, but I dont think it would be worth it... Many people run a heavy cycle, then throw in a T3 (+clen) cycle for a couple weeks at 100mcg peak, and lose tons of fat and gain muscle at the same time...