Which combination best for size and cutting fat.

[JAY_WD]

Which combination would be best for adding size and shredding.

Test/Tren
Test/Eq
Test/Winny
Test/Primo


Please bear in mind that i am looking for something that is easy on the hair

THanks

[taiboxa]

odd people always try to walk in two directions at once...

[JAY_WD]

[QUOTE=JAY_WD]Which combination would be best for adding size and shredding.

Test/Tren
Test/Eq
Test/Winny
Test/Primo
Test/Var

Any others?


Please bear in mind that i am looking for something that is easy on the hair

THanks

[Big]

You aren't going to get a lot of opinions on cutting while bulking, because that's generally not how it's done by those who know what they are doing. Bulk, then cut, rinse and repeat.

[taiboxa]

You aren't going to get a lot of opinions on cutting while bulking, because that's generally not how it's done by those who know what they are doing. Bulk, then cut, rinse and repeat.

this is like the 3rd thread of his i have seen dealing w/ cutting while bulking..

[Big]

I guess he's going to keep asking till he gets the answer he wants.

[JAY_WD]

I guess he's going to keep asking till he gets the answer he wants.

What i mean is what steroid is well known for its fat burning properties that can be stacked with test and is safe on the hair?

[Markosterone]

What i mean is what steroid is well known for its fat burning properties that can be stacked with test and is safe on the hair?

dude, if you are scared of loosing your hair, use some dutast or finast.

I would say use tren.
winny and mast are great also.

[JAY_WD]

dude, if you are scared of loosing your hair, use some dutast or finast.

I would say use tren.
winny and mast are great also.

I was told Duta or Finast can not help as these steroids are DHT based.

Duta or Finast only block the conversion to DHT and the only thing that can offer any sort of help against DHT derived steroids are topical solutions and shampoo.

Is this correct?

If not, what would the Duta/Finas dosages be whilst on Winny or any other DHT derived steroid.

Thanks.

[JAY_WD]

I was told Duta or Finast can not help as these steroids are DHT based.

Duta or Finast only block the conversion to DHT and the only thing that can offer any sort of help against DHT derived steroids are topical solutions and shampoo.

Is this correct?

If not, what would the Duta/Finas dosages be whilst on Winny or any other DHT derived steroid.

Thanks.

bump..

[PEWN]

..... i want to bulk while cutting... whats my options.. ?

[Juicy J]

..... i want to bulk while cutting... whats my options.. ?

none

[mkrulic]

check out the diet forum. there is a sticky on clean bulk or something like that. test/tren/hgh works wonders for me

[millionairemurph]

Eq is not a dht i dont believe, i wouldnt know about how well it does for the hairline. Topicals do work... nizoral and spiro
i think you are right about the fact that duta and finasteride wont help you (with anything other than aas that convert to dht)
so many people say use dutas but it wont help other than make sure what test you have wont convert to dht, but the mast or tren or whatever could screw your curls.

[sonnygll]

From what I've read var is real good for fat loss. It's crazy fvck1ng expensive though. Also If test effects you like it does me, you will need high doses of some serious appitite suppressents. I'm their worst nightmare at any all you can eat buffet. I put it away like a family of fatties right now.

I've thought about doing a test/var cycle. But my hunger and the price of var have me rethinking it. I'm going to do the semi-natural cut with just some albuterol. Cheap, and I'll be able to stick to my diet. And diet is the most important part anyway.

[Tbone1975]

I agree with the guys above that you should keep them separate. But, I can say this, tren increases the metabolism a TON! At least it did with me. I'm a fairly active guy. The first and only time I did tren, I was attempting to bulk. My attempts failed because I could never have predicted how much that stuff would increase my metabolism. Consequently, strength stayed fairly constant, while fat came off like there was no tomorrow. Unbelievable! I was using 150 mgs a day, then bumped it down to 100 to better achieve my goals. Tren has the potential to be a fat burner and a super one at that. My good buddy uses it as he approaches his bb comps. I've never used winny so I could not tell ya. I heard it is very good though. Test does not burn any fat off me LOL.

[Tbone1975]

EQ didn't have a big effect on fat loss either with me.

[JAY_WD]

I agree with the guys above that you should keep them separate. But, I can say this, tren increases the metabolism a TON! At least it did with me. I'm a fairly active guy. The first and only time I did tren, I was attempting to bulk. My attempts failed because I could never have predicted how much that stuff would increase my metabolism. Consequently, strength stayed fairly constant, while fat came off like there was no tomorrow. Unbelievable! I was using 150 mgs a day, then bumped it down to 100 to better achieve my goals. Tren has the potential to be a fat burner and a super one at that. My good buddy uses it as he approaches his bb comps. I've never used winny so I could not tell ya. I heard it is very good though. Test does not burn any fat off me LOL.

Were you running a Tren only cycle when the fat melted off?

If not, what else were you running with it?

Anyone know what Tren is like on the hairline?

[Tbone1975]

^^^^^^^ I was running tren ace, and supertest 450. That's it. Trust me, it wasn't the supertest 450 that made that fat come of.

[bigpapabuff]

you wanna cut the fat, go with clen/t3. You will lose weight like crazy.

[lil-SLIM]

mayeb try a bulker with var or winnie on the tail end and clen during pct then you might get the results your looking for. or try cutting with clen before your cycle then bulk

[texasmk4]

you can't ride in two boats at the same time...

[PEWN]

diet/cardio cycle

[SilverToungedDevil]

calorie surplus = weight gain
calorie deficit = weight loss

you can maintain a fairly lean physique with tren or var but i don't understand why you wouldn't want to add as much muscle as possible and then worry about leaning down while maintaining the muscle you put on.??

[JAY_WD]

calorie surplus = weight gain
calorie deficit = weight loss

you can maintain a fairly lean physique with tren or var but i don't understand why you wouldn't want to add as much muscle as possible and then worry about leaning down while maintaining the muscle you put on.??

I am from Australia and by the time my cycle finishes it will be the start of summer