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[Brazil]

should i get blood tested directly after pct, or wait a bit?

[kfrost06]

I prefer to wait a few weeks to get the test that way you can see how your body is working on it's own w/o any interference from the pct meds. GL

[Brazil]

I prefer to wait a few weeks to get the test that way you can see how your body is working on it's own w/o any interference from the pct meds. GL

ill wait till oct cause pct is bye bye next week. zits are finally clearing up and no problems with hard on so hopefully im alright.

[kfrost06]

The only time I get acne is during pct too. I am finishing up my pct this week and I am bouncing back fast! I am surprised, best recovery I've had but I didn't use a 19-nor in my cycle and recovery is always faster w/o using deca or tren in cycle, for me at least. Let me know how your recovery goes.

ill wait till oct cause pct is bye bye next week. zits are finally clearing up and no problems with hard on so hopefully im alright.

[magic32]

I agree w/your advice Frost, wait until well after PCT.
As stated, this eliminates PCT influence on your results, and also makes sure everything else is as good as going to get. As an example, most run blood test just prior to starting new cycles (mths after PCT), in an effort to assess cycle readiness.

The only time I get acne is during pct too. I am finishing up my pct this week and I am bouncing back fast! I am surprised, best recovery I've had but I didn't use a 19-nor in my cycle and recovery is always faster w/o using deca or tren in cycle, for me at least. Let me know how your recovery goes.

This makes perfect sense, as PCT represents greater than normal levels of estrogen (even though it's synthetic), while the real estro is still circulating (unable to bind) within the bloodstream...that's a lot of hormones and such levels generally manifest themselves in some way (i.e. physically...acne, oiliness, itching, etc; physiologically...lethargy, sleepiness; behaviorally...irritability, mood-swings; etc.)

[Brazil]

I agree w/your advice Frost, wait until well after PCT.
As stated, this eliminates PCT influence on your results, and also makes sure everything else is as good as going to get. As an example, most run blood test just prior to starting new cycles (mths after PCT), in an effort to assess cycle readiness.


This makes perfect sense, as PCT represents greater than normal levels of estrogen (even though it's synthetic), while the real estro is still circulating (unable to bind) within the bloodstream...that's a lot of hormones and such levels generally manifest themselves in some way (i.e. physically...acne, oiliness, itching, etc; physiologically...lethargy, sleepiness; behaviorally...irritability, mood-swings; etc.)

ill wait until my before my next cycle which will be my first time with tren provided its not fake. this cycle consisted of dbol with sust 30mg day and 750 week for 14 weeks. i finished with winny but im almost sure it was fake. pct is finished next week. I ran 40mg nolva for two weeks 100mg clomid for five days, then 20/50 for the rest and clen throughout.

[magic32]

Those are some high PCT dosages.

Why do you feel the Winny was bad, how much did you run, if tabs did you divide the dosage into 2x daily?

[Brazil]

i ran 100 mg day of upjohn. from what i saw on this site it was fake cause it had an address of kalamazoo michigan which someone said no longer existed after the merger.

[Brazil]

you think my pct was too much?

[magic32]

i ran 100 mg day of upjohn. from what i saw on this site it was fake cause it had an address of kalamazoo michigan which someone said no longer existed after the merger.

I'd be less concerned with the zip code, and more so with the compound's effects.
The question is, "Did you experience traditional Winstrol effects?"

If so, then it was fine.
If not, you'd first assess your dosing, frequency and duration. If all were in accord, then analyze your expectations in light of Winstrol's claims/properties. Only after evaluations of human error does one begin question the legitimacy of his gear.

you think my pct was too much?

That amounts to:

Wk 1: Nolva 280mgs; Clom 600mgs
Wk 2: Nolva 280mgs; Clom 350mgs
Wk3+ Nolva 100mgs; Clom 350mgs

Yeah that’s pretty stiff, especially for a Test, Dbol cycle. Such a cycle doesn't necessitate both of these drugs and certainly not at those levels. But hey as long as you weren't falling asleep at work, walking around looking like a human pimple, and biting off the heads of those around you, just study up for your next one.
I guarantee you maintained every ounce of keepable gains...that's for sure!

[Brazil]

one i dont work which is nice. All i have to think about is what im going to eat next. I dont even have to clean the house my girl does all that. Pretty soon its back to the real world though time to work again in the old usa. After one more cycle of course cause i have no sources in the states but am loaded with them here.

i guess ive been a dick to my girl this last month. But im getting better. So you think i coulda stayed at 50/20 throughout the month?