sex drive loss while on deca - remede

[maomamstaff]

Hi,



First of all thank you guys so much for all your amazing informations on all steroid profile. It actually helps out a lot. About myself, I live in Europe, am 32, 5’8 and weigh around 180. I have been lifting seriously for 10 years and do also mixed martial arts as a sport. I did my first cycle with Deca (250 ml/week) and winstrol (2/week) for about 6 weeks but was very frustrated with the sex drive loss. So I changed it to Deca (the same) and Sustanon (250 ml/week) which did some good for the sexual thing. So now I would like to try Boldenone and why not winstrol again. My question is am I susceptible to have that sexual drive loss again with Boldenone as with Deca? If so, it’d be better to stack it with susta or enanthate right? In the first place my goal is to gain lean mass and keep it. I kinda watch my diet and am a freak training.



If you could answer me I would find it very generous on your part, but if you don’t I would understand it as well. Thanks a million in advance.



Cheers for all your work



Best from Europe



Laurent

[Ir0n]

well I presume you do PCT after cycles right? they should help you out with it.

[peterbondra]

You may want to look into some cabergoline. I like it alot personally. It reduces prolactin which the deca increases (and why you get lowered sex drive on deca)

I always use more test than another compound (like deca and equipoise). If you follow by that it should help you out alot!

Good luck!

[kfrost06]

The problem is when you take gear, it stops natural production of testosterone and thats why you experience a loss in sex drive and erections. When you added sus to your deca cycle you added testosterone and that gave you your sex drive back. 19-nor steroids(like deca) are the worse for shutting down your test production. Boldenone is not as bad but will still shut you down so you will want to add some testosterone to your mix, if it's for sex drive only and you want to stay lean I would recommend taking about 150mg/wk of testosterone cyp or enth and add 25-50mg proviron ED with it. The test at that dose will not add water weight or sides and the proviron will lower your SHBG which makes your test free to do it's job. GL

[ironaddict69]

everyone pretty much covered it. if you were ok when you added test to the mix, cabergoline or bromocriptine is not necessary, however both would help regardless. anyway, always run test at least 150 mg per week, if you care about sex.

[jdavis2007]

proviron will help a lot as well...good luck.

[S431M7]

everyone pretty much covered it. if you were ok when you added test to the mix, cabergoline or bromocriptine is not necessary, however both would help regardless. anyway, always run test at least 150 mg per week, if you care about sex.

Good advise, iron!

[Amorphic]

Moral of the story, always stack your steroids with test to avoid any possible sexual dysfunction. Everyone summed it up well.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Hi,



First of all thank you guys so much for all your amazing informations on all steroid profile. It actually helps out a lot. About myself, I live in Europe, am 32, 5’8 and weigh around 180. I have been lifting seriously for 10 years and do also mixed martial arts as a sport. I did my first cycle with Deca (250 ml/week) and winstrol (2/week) for about 6 weeks but was very frustrated with the sex drive loss. So I changed it to Deca (the same) and Sustanon (250 ml/week) which did some good for the sexual thing. So now I would like to try Boldenone and why not winstrol again. My question is am I susceptible to have that sexual drive loss again with Boldenone as with Deca? If so, it’d be better to stack it with susta or enanthate right? In the first place my goal is to gain lean mass and keep it. I kinda watch my diet and am a freak training.



If you could answer me I would find it very generous on your part, but if you don’t I would understand it as well. Thanks a million in advance.



Cheers for all your work



Best from Europe



Laurent

the reason why u had the sex drive loss is because deca alone or combined with a steroid such as winstrol would lower it for anybody. When u combined deca with a true test or pretty much 90% test substance like sustanon that recovered your sex drive.
deca lowers anyones sex drive taken alone along with lethargy usually.. same goes for being combined with winstrol.

[sincere81oo0]

Hi,



First of all thank you guys so much for all your amazing informations on all steroid profile. It actually helps out a lot. About myself, I live in Europe, am 32, 5’8 and weigh around 180. I have been lifting seriously for 10 years and do also mixed martial arts as a sport. I did my first cycle with Deca (250 ml/week) and winstrol (2/week) for about 6 weeks but was very frustrated with the sex drive loss. So I changed it to Deca (the same) and Sustanon (250 ml/week) which did some good for the sexual thing. So now I would like to try Boldenone and why not winstrol again. My question is am I susceptible to have that sexual drive loss again with Boldenone as with Deca? If so, it’d be better to stack it with susta or enanthate right? In the first place my goal is to gain lean mass and keep it. I kinda watch my diet and am a freak training.


If you could answer me I would find it very generous on your part, but if you don’t I would understand it as well. Thanks a million in advance.



Cheers for all your work



Best from Europe



Laurent

even a low dose of deca is enough to reduce your libido significantlly... thats why people stack it with test. try shooting some low doses of test or hcg.. other than that viagra?? lol

[taiboxa]

coulda used the search button for this one..
its bout as common as "Can i drink win"

[sincere81oo0]

coulda used the search button for this one..
its bout as common as "Can i drink win"

lol i think its the same for every BB site haha

[S431M7]

coulda used the search button for this one..
its bout as common as "Can i drink win"

my pops says your grandma was an amazing Madam.

[taiboxa]

my pops says your grandma was an amazing Madam.

seriously wtf is the point of this post? why are you still here? everyone hates you no one respects you and you are a waste of carbon.

[Amorphic]

my pops says your grandma was an amazing Madam.

[Dizz28]

my pops says your grandma was an amazing Madam.

That's a pretty childish remark. That's in the same category as the "I'm rubber and your glue" crap little kids say to each other.

Good one

[S431M7]

seriously wtf is the point of this post? why are you still here? everyone hates you no one respects you and you are a waste of carbon.

L0L@

Like i was seeking love from strange addicts.

[Dizz28]

L0L@

Like i was seeking love from strange addicts.

Why are you here if you think we are just dumb "addicts"?

[Amorphic]

I'm just addicted to these silly posts.

[Dizz28]

^^ I enjoy when he posts..gives me more to put in the "AR Hall of shame quotes"

[taiboxa]

^^ I enjoy when he posts..gives me more to put in the "AR Hall of shame quotes"

well u might wanna hint to him to slow his posting...
i didnt think it was possible but... i think he is going to FILL UP a thread.

[ftony]

The problem is when you take gear, it stops natural production of testosterone and thats why you experience a loss in sex drive and erections. When you added sus to your deca cycle you added testosterone and that gave you your sex drive back. 19-nor steroids(like deca) are the worse for shutting down your test production. Boldenone is not as bad but will still shut you down so you will want to add some testosterone to your mix, if it's for sex drive only and you want to stay lean I would recommend taking about 150mg/wk of testosterone cyp or enth and add 25-50mg proviron ED with it. The test at that dose will not add water weight or sides and the proviron will lower your SHBG which makes your test free to do it's job. GL

Good job kfrost! And i thought you were just here to debate in the news forum....After i read this post i think not,hopefully he follows this post because its pretty much dead on...

[cookiemonstR]

Hi,



First of all thank you guys so much for all your amazing informations on all steroid profile. It actually helps out a lot. About myself, I live in Europe, am 32, 5’8 and weigh around 180. I have been lifting seriously for 10 years and do also mixed martial arts as a sport. I did my first cycle with Deca (250 ml/week) and winstrol (2/week) for about 6 weeks but was very frustrated with the sex drive loss. So I changed it to Deca (the same) and Sustanon (250 ml/week) which did some good for the sexual thing. So now I would like to try Boldenone and why not winstrol again. My question is am I susceptible to have that sexual drive loss again with Boldenone as with Deca? If so, it’d be better to stack it with susta or enanthate right? In the first place my goal is to gain lean mass and keep it. I kinda watch my diet and am a freak training.



If you could answer me I would find it very generous on your part, but if you don’t I would understand it as well. Thanks a million in advance.



Cheers for all your work



Best from Europe



Laurent

When you take a steroid it replaces your endogenous testosterone production (your testes) with an exogenous source. To remedy this, most people take testosterone while on cycle, not just other steroids, which shut down your natural testosterone production w/o replacing it. So, throw test into the mix your next cycle. But, this time, use a more consistent source of testosterone, sustunon is a multi ester testosterone which breaks down at different periods of time which gives you inconsistent testosterone release, if used improperly (one shot of 250 mg a week). You want to be using a single ester testosterone like Enanthate or Cypionate which is far more consistent considering you don't want to do many shots. And, i would avoid deca, its known for increasing *progesterone (i belive) leading to a decrease in sex drive.
CHeers

[Merc..]

steroids lower t-3 and inturn increase prolactin and can kill your sex drive..

Merc.

[one8nine]

You may want to look into some cabergoline. I like it alot personally. It reduces prolactin which the deca increases (and why you get lowered sex drive on deca)

I always use more test than another compound (like deca and equipoise). If you follow by that it should help you out alot!

Good luck!

+1


caber and letro (or whatever ai you choose) are just as impoartant in a cycle as the anabolics and pct

[thunderin]

steroids lower t-3 and inturn increase prolactin and can kill your sex drive..

Merc.

So, if T3 is taken with deca only cycles, libido will not decrease?

[Merc..]

So, if T3 is taken with deca only cycles, libido will not decrease?

No,


Its already been discussed in this thread why test should be used..

There are several reasons why sex drive can be low while on cycle.. ( also depending on what compounds your using) Estrogen, prolactin , progesterone..

Merc.

[thunderin]

Thanks

Is there a minimum test to nor-19 ratio you would suggest to maintain normal libido?

[Merc..]

Thanks

Is there a minimum test to nor-19 ratio you would suggest to maintain normal libido?

I usually use 500 -750 mg of test EW and I have only used deca at 400 mg EW..

So I cant say from personal experience but it seems people use like 200-350 mg of test to help with sex drive when using a 19 nor...


Merc.

[taiboxa]

i can get away w/ 25mg prop EoD for libido purposes regardless of the nor group and its dosing..
one of my best cycles gains vs sides was like 660mg TrenE EoD and 25mg Prop EoD

seriously though.. no need to go over 200mgED tren dosing unless ur over 300lbs lol

[ironaddict69]

No,


Its already been discussed in this thread why test should be used..

There are several reasons why sex drive can be low while on cycle.. ( also depending on what compounds your using) Estrogen, prolactin , progesterone..

Merc.

what do you feel is an optimal number for estrogen for sex drive to be good?

[Merc..]

i can get away w/ 25mg prop EoD for libido purposes regardless of the nor group and its dosing..
one of my best cycles gains vs sides was like 660mg TrenE EoD and 25mg Prop EoD

seriously though.. no need to go over 200mgED tren dosing unless ur over 300lbs lol

So about 100 mg of test is what works good for you Tai ??


Merc.

[taiboxa]

what do you feel is an optimal number for estrogen for sex drive to be good?

i think this would be too difficult to put a specific value on since there are so many contributing factors and each individual are so effin different..
some people get HUGE LI**IO BOOOSTS off DHT's.. some are COMPLETY incapable of performing sex from nor groups while others only suffer a slight decrease in libido from nor groups..
its like pandora's box

but.. to be honest..
melanotanII has giving me INSANE LIBIDO boost which is weird because heres my hormonal break down
1) libido was NOTHING before MTII since i was running letro to dry me up and possibly shrink gyno(which it didnt, it only ****d my joints and make me moody)
2) im running VERY VERY low dose of test right now so comparing my aromitization vs AI dosing .. i shudnt even be thinking bout sex let alone waking up w/ morning wood...
3) my progest recepters are probably running at 200% lol due to my tren dosing

so those 3 factors above should make the idea of sex REPULSIVE.. but since i have been running MelanotanII .. i wake up w/ morning wood all the time.. and i even think bout sex every now and then..

[Merc..]

what do you feel is an optimal number for estrogen for sex drive to be good?

To high estrogen can kill sex drive and to low can kill it as well..

130 ng or less is in range for estrogen .. ( as far as blood work values are concerned)

Keep in mind there are other factors than just estrogen that can mess with sex drive.

Merc.

[taiboxa]

So about 100 mg of test is what works good for you Tai ??


Merc.

yeah i dont like to go over 200 .. and never realy gone below 100mg/wk on purpose..

[Merc..]

Do you prefer prop ?

Merc.

[taiboxa]

Do you prefer prop ?

Merc.

no
but it was convienent..
i like sust/blends for trt type of regiments.
they are so much more.. efficient.

[Merc..]

So you stick with HRT test doses .. Do you cruise year round??


Merc.

[taiboxa]

yep.. dont even raise my test when i go heavy..
i just up my tren and might add halo .. though i hate orals kuz they give me shitty indigestion and nerf appetite.

[Merc..]

I tried halo .. Not much success .. Whats an effective dose for ya??


Merc.