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Thread: Test Prop, Var, T-3 Cycle
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09-14-2007, 01:47 AM #1
Test Prop, Var, T-3 Cycle
I'm working on a cutting/lean mass cycle to run this winter. I'm in my 40's and have been weight training each winter for over 10 years. Workouts focus on legs and core strength. I'm 5'8", 142 Lbs with a very lean build. My diet is very low fat (lots of veggies & fruit), high protein (lean poultry, fish, and Whey Pro), high fiber, and high carbohydrate (for high glycogen levels for endurance cardio). I have VAR, Proviron , Clomid, and Nolva on hand. The rest of the cycle could be adjusted since the other compounds will be obtained later on. I'd like to increase my strength, lose a little BF, and stay close to the same weight. I'll be doing my heaviest weight work in weeks 1-8 and then work on power 9-12. I'll be doing 10-15 hours of riding per week during the cycle.
Here's what I've got so far:
Weeks 1-12: Anavar 60 mg ED (6 x 10 mg tabs)
Weeks 1-12: Testosterone Propionate 60 mg ED (3 x ugl sublingual 20 mg)
Weeks 1-12: Arimidex 1 mg ED (1 mg tab)
Weeks 1-10: T-3 25 mg ED (25 mg tab)
Weeks 11-12: T-100X twice daily (Thyroid PCT)
Week 13: Nolvadex 40mg ED & Clomid 100 mg ED & ECA+Tribex
Week 13: Nolvadex 30mg ED & Clomid 50 mg ED & ECA+Tribex
Week 13: Nolvadex 20mg ED & Clomid 50 mg ED & ECA+Tribex
QUESTIONS:
T-3: I've read a lot posts about t-3 (thanks mallet!). Would it be a good idea to cycle on and off (I've seen 7D on/5D off) at 25 mg/day?
Testosterone Propionate : I've read that under 500mg/wk estrogen issues are minimized. At 60 mg ED is Arimidex or another anti estrogen still prudent?
Clomid: the vision and mood sides of this compound get mentioned in many PCT posts I've seen. Anthony Roberts suggested leaving it out of PCT all together. Would 20 mg Ed of Aromasin (exemestane) be a good alternative to Clomid?
Proviron: would it be a good idea to add it to the cycle or PCT?
HCG : I'm only using orals, so that's why HCG isn't in my PCT. Can it be taken orally?
Pulsing: I've read that using AAS compounds 3-4 days per week could still yield good results, albeit less than ED dosing, with less sides. I've already had some feedback on other threads that pulsing isn't worthwhile. Anybody tried this successfully?
Your feedback would be appreciated..... Thanks.Last edited by epno; 10-15-2007 at 05:10 PM.
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09-14-2007, 03:26 PM #2
No u can't take hcg orally, and u should be injecting test prop ur body is gonna break it down before it does you any good, ur diet and training regimen looks very good tho. I got sum test prop left and I like the leaning out effects, but ur gonna need to inject it for better results the only issue is that it makes the injection area sore for sum ppl, this usually gets better the more u inject but theres a chance where ur gonna have test flu as well, where ur gonna feel like shit and not wanna do anything for about 3 days but it'll pass. I had it from my gear. Ur not really gonna need any AI drugs since its effects only last a few days, it doesn't give it enough time to aromatize and lead to gyno. Thats more of an issue with the long acting esters. Test Prop is mostly used as a base to cutting cycles for that reason, I've used it and no gyno problems at all its great for leaning out. But I can't answer that Aromasin to Clomid question u need to take that t-3 all the time I would think, ur thyroid is very finiky about changes in the hormone levels so I would take it all the time. Ur gonna need a good PCT to follow tho, because since its so much faster than enan/cyp ur gonna lose ur gains pretty quickly. I would use Clomid myself personally
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09-14-2007, 03:51 PM #3
Sublingual AAS
FYI, I've found 4 types of AAS available in sublingual tabs: testosterone propionate , testosterone suspension , boldenone propionate , and nandrolone phenoprop. They're all 20 mg. They aren't swallowed. They're taken as follows:
How it works : Cyclodextrine Hydroxy Beta or CHB transports steroid molcules sublingualy through skin under tongue (saliva gland) which is thinest in body , so no need to inject anymore !
First we micronized the steroid to 5 micron to make it possible to settle into into Saliva and blend into CHB , without micronization it would clump up and wouldn't blend in with CHB.
how to use : place 1-2 tab under tongue till fully disolved , keep it there few more minutes , then let it down.
how often ? prop every 4 to 6 hours and suspension every 1 hour
why so often ? because they have very short half life
Sounds good to me. Anyone else tried this delivery system?
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