singulair and it's effect on bb and cycles?

[ascendant]

well, i have asthma, and since i've moved here to FL, it's been worse to the point where i've been considering going on something in addition to my albuterol. i've been considering singulair. now i know that corticosteroid treatments for asthma can actually inhibit muscle growth due to it's muscle relaxing effects (and possibly other factors). however, it doesn't seem like the active ingredient in singulair is a cortico, but not sure from exactly how it works if it would have any adverse affect on my training and if it will effect the receptors at all when i'm doing cycles?

basically just looking for some long-lasting treatment i can take to keep my asthma under control without having to take an inhaler everywhere with me throughout my day. seems like my two best bets would either be singulair or advair, and since i can't get a generic version of advair from my offshore pharmacy, the generic singulair seems to be my best choice at this point.

just wondering if anyone can tell me for sure if it will affect it at all or not. also, if anyone takes it and can tell me if it has any weight gain/loss kind of effects (like for example some anti-depressants do), i'd really appreciate it. thanks.

[ascendant]

nobody here has ever used singulair or it's generic? cmon now!

[epno]

ascendant,

I've been using Singulair for over 5 years. I mountain bike race in very dry dusty conditions at times. I've had allergies to dust and pollen since early childhood. Eventually I was diagnosed with "exercise induced asthma". I've never needed a rescue inhaler, and my condition didn't develop until I was about 40 years old. I take 10 mg Singulair Daily. If I don't take it, my lungs have a slight fluid build up making breathing more difficult. I also take Advair (Fluticasone/ Salmeterol 250 mcg/50 mcg): this is the middle strength version. I'm prescribed two puffs per day, but usually only need one. This is a good way to keep an otherwise expensive rx cheaper. I also use Flonase (Fluticasone 50 mcg/120 dose) at 4 doses per day. I buy all of them from a Canadian online pharmacy with a prescription: pm me if you want the site. They offer generic Singulair at a considerable savings, but I had some issues with it not being as effective as the brand name product during the peak allergy season in the summer. Advair and Singulair are supposed to lessen the need to use an inhaler. If you're a serious asthmatic, you may well need to keep an inhaler handy. Singulair is a montelukast inhibitor. I don't know the chemistry of how it works. Advair and Flonase both contain Fluticasone, a corticosteroid. Corticosteroids are catabolic, but I've never had any problems with catabolism from Fluticasone. The doses in all these medications are very small and locally administered. That's a much lower impact to your system than taking an oral dose of a corticosteriod.

In terms of using these with AAS, I have very little experience to offer. I've used Prednisone frequently with them and had no problems: it knocks out sinus and lung inflammation very well, but is catabolic. I use GH Max when taking it to mitigate the catabolism and adjust my diet and supplements accordingly. It's common sense that the more medications you're taking with AAS, the harder your liver is going to be worked. That's encouragement to have a very healthy diet and good liver support. None of the prescriptions I've mentioned have had any impact on my weight. epno

[Amuuzeng]

Singulair (Montelukast) inhibits some of the inflammatory response by decreasing/antagonizing leukotriene release which is involved in asthma/allergy responses. I know it is involved in the arachidonic acid inflammatory response to a certain degree and we know this can be involved in some of the muslce building responses the body has. Singulair is more selective to mucosal lining and I don't know how much effect it might have with muscles, I'd guess very little. I've never seen studies on Singulair and muscle building, but I'm guessing it's possible to lessen the response, however, I can't see it being of clinical significance. I know athletes who use it and like it, but none of them are weight trainers. In other words, if it helps you breathe? Use it, it will be more beneficial to breathe then worry about a small response it might have on muscle building.

Enjoy

[Maldorf]

Ive been using it for about 5 years myself and it is by far the best thing I ever did for my asthma. I really would go on it if I were you. I experience absolutely no sides and feel better than ever. I also use albuterol when needed. Singulair has no neg sides as far as bodybuilding goes.

[ascendant]

ascendant,

I've been using Singulair for over 5 years. I mountain bike race in very dry dusty conditions at times. I've had allergies to dust and pollen since early childhood. Eventually I was diagnosed with "exercise induced asthma". I've never needed a rescue inhaler, and my condition didn't develop until I was about 40 years old. I take 10 mg Singulair Daily. If I don't take it, my lungs have a slight fluid build up making breathing more difficult. I also take Advair (Fluticasone/ Salmeterol 250 mcg/50 mcg): this is the middle strength version. I'm prescribed two puffs per day, but usually only need one. This is a good way to keep an otherwise expensive rx cheaper. I also use Flonase (Fluticasone 50 mcg/120 dose) at 4 doses per day. I buy all of them from a Canadian online pharmacy with a prescription: pm me if you want the site. They offer generic Singulair at a considerable savings, but I had some issues with it not being as effective as the brand name product during the peak allergy season in the summer. Advair and Singulair are supposed to lessen the need to use an inhaler. If you're a serious asthmatic, you may well need to keep an inhaler handy. Singulair is a montelukast inhibitor. I don't know the chemistry of how it works. Advair and Flonase both contain Fluticasone, a corticosteroid. Corticosteroids are catabolic, but I've never had any problems with catabolism from Fluticasone. The doses in all these medications are very small and locally administered. That's a much lower impact to your system than taking an oral dose of a corticosteriod.

In terms of using these with AAS, I have very little experience to offer. I've used Prednisone frequently with them and had no problems: it knocks out sinus and lung inflammation very well, but is catabolic. I use GH Max when taking it to mitigate the catabolism and adjust my diet and supplements accordingly. It's common sense that the more medications you're taking with AAS, the harder your liver is going to be worked. That's encouragement to have a very healthy diet and good liver support. None of the prescriptions I've mentioned have had any impact on my weight. epno

thanks for the info bro. in my personal experience, i found corticosteroids did actually inhibit my gains. i took it for a while when i was a teenager and had blown a hole in one of my lungs (REALLY long story, but it's healt up of course). once i found out about it's potential for inhibiting muscle growth, i stopped taking it. within a month, i gained about 5 more pounds of muscle. maybe it was cause he had me on a high dose or that those ones back then had a more dramatic impact on the rest of your body. it was about 15 years ago, so i have no idea what it was even called, only that it was in a pink inhaler and i had to take a puff in the am and pm.

so anyway, that's why the advair wasn't an option IMO and i was looking at the singulair. well i think i'm gonna give it a shot. my asthma doesn't bother me that seriously, but i've had it all my life and down here in FL i just find there are more allergens that aggravate it from time to time. however, it's nothing that bad, so i figured if i took sinulair, it would probably keep me from having to carry my albuterol inhaler around everywhere with me and i can just keep a spare in my car or something in case.

as far as your canadian source, i appreciate the offer bro and i'll drop you a line. i actually have a real cheap source already that i buy my albuterol inhaler from. guess we'll exchange sites and see which is cheaper . a big part of why i was considering singulair though is that i go through my albuterol inhaler in about a month, and that one costs me about $11. however, singulair will only cost me $3.75 a month at the typical 10mg dose with the generic version (which i'm sure is just as good as the regular version, just not so overpriced)! now some people say after they take it that it completely eliminates their need to even use the albuterol, so if that's the case with me, i'd be saving myself a bit of dough there. not a whole lot, but it would add up and every little bit counts .

[ascendant]

Ive been using it for about 5 years myself and it is by far the best thing I ever did for my asthma. I really would go on it if I were you. I experience absolutely no sides and feel better than ever. I also use albuterol when needed. Singulair has no neg sides as far as bodybuilding goes.

thanks to you as well bro. what you're doing is exactly what i'm planning on doing, the sinulair daily and albuterol for emergencies.

[Maldorf]

thanks to you as well bro. what you're doing is exactly what i'm planning on doing, the sinulair daily and albuterol for emergencies.

You will find yourself using the inhailer less and less. Only thing I was dissapointed in with the singulair is the fact that it did not seem to do much of anything for my allergies.