**First cycle deca/enan/dbol or deca/enan/winny tabs**

[bigedd3105]

What would be a better first cycle, looking for mass but don't want to get too fat.

either:
1
dbol 1-6 weeks @ 35mg
enan 1-8 weeks @ 500mg
deca 1-8 weeks @ 400mg

2
enan 1-8 weeks @ 500mg
deca 1-8 weeks @ 400mg
winny tabs 2-8 weeks @ 50mg ed

I will use clomid post cycle and liquidex and proviron all the way through. Which cycle would be bettter and do you think it would be benefical to run the test fot 10 weeks instead of 8.

[bigedd3105]

Also i been training for 4 years. 5'8 190. Diet will be 4000cals 300g of protein, 450g of carbs and 90f of fat.

[bigedd3105]

bump, any help

[djdjdjddjon]

depends on your goals bro, the latter cycle will give you a little more cut, the 1st will give you a little more size...personally i dont like deca and for the latter i would substitute eq, but thats just me, good luck

[bigedd3105]

If i do the second cycle would it be better to run the test for 10 weeks or 8