t-bol question

[darkwing]

Ok , I know almost no one does a cycle without a test, so can I substitute
t-bol for one of the other tests? I am very gyno prone, just had my 2nd surg., so just thinking of what I can do in the future.
Thanks for any sugestions.

[magic32]

Many people run cycles w/o Test, though it's not recommended for best results.

Although Tbol (and nearly everything else) increases Test levels, it does not replace synthetic Testosterone w/in a cycle.

[Johny-too-small]

tbol does not aromatize. You're good to run it alone or with something else.

[big_dubya33]

tbol is incredible. On my first run right now. all lean gones, no estro sides. enjoy

[pimpdawgin]

Somebody please tell me if T-Bol causes shutdown at 60mg per day.
Because right now I am running that, with Var (at 60 mg a dayas well) and haven't experienced any shutdown. If anything, I would say I am a little bit hornier than usual. Does this mean my T-Bol is fake?

[ironaddict69]

no tbol makes people hornier.

[pimpdawgin]

no tbol makes people hornier.

OK. And is it definitely non-aromatizing? i.e. Is it "100% gyno-proof", if there is such a thing.

[Ejuicer]

no tbol makes people hornier.

Same here. I really gets my sex drive going while running it. You could very well run a cycle without test while using t-bol and not experience any negative sexual sides.

[ironaddict69]

Same here. I really gets my sex drive going while running it. You could very well run a cycle without test while using t-bol and not experience any negative sexual sides.

i 2nd that. it works better than test for libido (WITH ME)

[magic32]

OK. And is it definitely non-aromatizing? i.e. Is it "100% gyno-proof", if there is such a thing.

Yes.

[whynot960]

do you need a pct after a tbol cycle. or an aniti e. and how long can you run this.

[convalescence69]

yeah, Pct is a good idea, but ya don't need a hardcore one. If you are running 60/60 var tbol (a good oral only combo) then I'd say 20mg nolva ed for some weeks afterwards (depending on how you feel).
Some people give ya hell for oral only, but if you are going to do it I'd say you've got the best one you could do right there. Var is not so bad on your liver and tbol only mildly so. You'll get great lean gains, no estro sides, and low dht symptons with that combo. Great stuff, goodluck.

[convalescence69]

about running length, I'd say 6 weeks, maximum 8 weeks. After that you'll see no more gains and you might start to feel crappy. You'll keep a lot of what you gained though, as long as you are doing your pct and keep training and eating right.
One more thing on the pct, I added myogenx and it appears to have helped. It's over the counter herbal supplement, getting great reviews. Studies repeatedly show it raises Test levels naturally by stimulating the gonads. Nab some.