6 mnth on winny

[johny3balls]

been takin winst inj every other day for about 6 months, plus sus 250 once a week. came off the sus 1 week ago, still on the winst. iv had no side effects but looking on here i realised that winst is highly toxic and should be an 8 week cycle. iv got some pregnyl what else should i take to come off yhe gear and how long should i give my liver to recover.

[bpm1]

id check out the pct section and read the stickies, i like anthony roberts pct, but id go a little longer maybee 2-4wks and then get bloodwork done to see where ur at, as for ur liver it'll take care of itself but deff have ur liver enzyme panel done when u get ur bloodwork to make sure all is normal(im sure u'll be fine)

[johny3balls]

thanks for that, ill check it out.

[Kratos]

u should think about taking some substantial time off, 6 months is a long run. I would say lay off for 6 months now. What made you decide to do this maddness? Winstrol EOD?

[bpm1]

u should think about taking some substantial time off, 6 months is a long run. I would say lay off for 6 months now. What made you decide to do this maddness? Winstrol EOD?

fo sho, im thinkin he'll prob have to run pct twice as long to get his balls functioning again and his test levels back, im gyessing he doesny know his baseline though

[Merc..]

You used winny for 6 months ??

what doses ??

Merc.

[longhorn814]

dude you need to way more concerned about your cholesterol profile..winstrol destroys that very quickly. 6 months with 0 HDL and very high LDL puts you in the prime category for cardiovascular disease. Do you know anything about proper cycling? What PCT is? So you were just taking sust and winny for 6 months? You need to learn what PCT is. Good thing is you dont have to start PCT until 18 days after you last shot of sust so you best get on this real quick. You need some aromasin and nolvadex for starters. Everybody has their theory on HCG use. I prefer to run it during cycle others post cycle and others right before PCT starts. Do some reading

[johny3balls]

bad advice, i used 50mils every other day, i think. jabbed 1 vile every other day

[bpm1]

bad advice, i used 50mils every other day, i think. jabbed 1 vile every other day

what awas it dosed at, wat is 50 mils? not 50ml, i cant believe that

[Merc..]

You really need to do alot of research... Your cycle wasn't good ( to say the least)

HCG is suppressive and needs to be used in conjunction with nolva to block its suppressive nature..

Here is a link to the PCT Bpm1 was talking about

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


Merc.

[kfrost06]

winny for 6 months??? like to see your lipid profile after that one.

[taiboxa]

winny for 6 months??? like to see your lipid profile after that one.

it would be the same as someone who used it for 4 weeks lol.. just.. his HDL would be 0 for a much much longer time frame.

sounds like someone had 50mg amps if he was shootin one eod..
either way that was pretty idiotic but i doubt it caused any issues at all.. i know people who ran 200mg ED for 13-14 weeks and came out A'oK so..

[longhorn814]

winny for 6 months??? like to see your lipid profile after that one.

yeah I would say bloodwork is mandatory after a cycle like that!

[johny3balls]

Im starting to get a bit worried now lol. It was 50 mg eod i was takin. Thanks for the advice, ill be ordering for my pct tommorow. I dont really understand about the cholesterol, ill read up on it. Im running 3 times a week now, finding it hard, i put it down to extra weight id gained and lack of cv. could i be doing further damage pushing myself hard with the cv then? I wish id known about this site prior to sticking chemicals into my body!

[longhorn814]

Im starting to get a bit worried now lol. It was 50 mg eod i was takin. Thanks for the advice, ill be ordering for my pct tommorow. I dont really understand about the cholesterol, ill read up on it. Im running 3 times a week now, finding it hard, i put it down to extra weight id gained and lack of cv. could i be doing further damage pushing myself hard with the cv then? I wish id known about this site prior to sticking chemicals into my body!

Yeah one would think you would want to know what your putting into your body and what it does? You really dont know what cholesterol is? What are your stats..height, age, weight, etc? I highly suggest a trip to your doc to get some bloodwork done too

[TEST_ME!]

maybe 50mg's every other day? 50ml's every other day for 6 months....about 4.5L's lol my God!well you must've picked up at least 4,5kg's lol.Ok enough of that,seriously bro research pct forum get good pct and as Kratos said I'd stay clean for 6months at least,good luck

[bpm1]

like everybody said get some bloodwork done and then post up the results, im dying to see how they come out. 50mg eod isnt alot though so thats in ur favor

[taiboxa]

like everybody said get some bloodwork done and then post up the results, im dying to see how they come out. 50mg eod isnt alot though so thats in ur favor

its still enuff to reduce his HDL to nothing and blow up his prostate LOL

[TEST_ME!]

its still enuff to reduce his HDL to nothing and blow up his prostate LOL

[bpm1]

its still enuff to reduce his HDL to nothing and blow up his prostate LOL

i wanna see the results cause we always talk bout how bad it is, now lets see it on paper.this is great research information IMO and i wanna see it! now!! nah really, please please(BTW i dont wanna see his prostate ,just wanted to make that clear)

[browboy]

Dude,
I ran winny for like 5 weeks, 50mg eod. Had blood pressure problems, and just had blood tests done. My hdl went down to 15 and ldl is 149. You definatley need to have blood work done and see where you are. If hdl is low and ldl is high, it can lead to coronary and/or heart problems. I see my dr again on Monday to see what we are going to do about my values. Definately get going on a good pct though in the mean time. As others mentioned, once you get blood work done, post the results. There are plenty of people on here that can advise you accordingly.

Browboy

[johny3balls]

i look stupid enough already so i may aswell ask, whats hdl and ldl?

[taiboxa]

i look stupid enough already so i may aswell ask, whats hdl and ldl?

High density and low density cholesterol
HDL = GOOD
LDL = BAD
might wanna read up on them (just google em) and learn of their importance.. because once u realized how important they are and how bad ORALS dick up your cholesterol.. it really makes ya rethink using orals to begin with..

[johny3balls]

27, 5'11, 13 and a half stone

[johny3balls]

so do you think ill live then lol. worst case sinario what do you think i have to worry about

[taiboxa]

well.. if you cant see ur prostrate pertruding.. i think u will be ok lol
honestly u ran a womans dose of win so ur fine... definetly a WASTE of win IMO but hey live and learn..

[johny3balls]

its a bit of a problem going to the docs with me being in the military

[longhorn814]

its a bit of a problem going to the docs with me being in the military

so you can be in the military and take steroids, but you cant go see a doc? More than likely your cholesterol values will return to normal, but it make take a while since youve been on a 17aa for 6 months..ultimately blood work will tell you the results.. You should really do some reading on cholesterol and how important it is to keep it in normal ranges

[taiboxa]

its a bit of a problem going to the docs with me being in the military

yep .. been there before... best part is either way they wouldnt know wtf you are talking about.. be like
I TOOK WINSTROL.. they would be like? is that.. a condiment?
then you say NO ITS A STEROID
they will say OHH steroids are BAD dont take em..
and thats the scenerio if the doc is any good.

just say you mothers side of the family has horrible choesterol and you want to keep an eye on yours. and tell them you want a complete blood panel check as well.. just to make sure your shits together..
they will probaby give you some ghetto cholesterol meds and what not after you get the results back but dont take em. just from proper diet of good fats you can bring your lipid profile up to par.

[goose]

According to one study i read, it took 600 mg per week of testosterone enanthate administration before there was a statistically significant drop in HDL . On the other hand, as little as 6 mg/day of Winstrol can lower HDL by 33. 6 months of this would be a killer.

[Merc..]

According to one study i read, it took 600 mg per week of testosterone enanthate administration before there was a statistically significant drop in HDL . On the other hand, as little as 6 mg/day of Winstrol can lower HDL by 33. 6 months of this would be a killer.

Yep 6 mg can lower HDL by 33 % , and raise LDL by 29 %

He needs to get some bloodwork done !!!



Merc.

[bpm1]

so how fast can these levels bring on damage? it leads to heart probs n such, but how quickly? and if ur levels return to normal wont your body correct any issues or would they be permanent?

[Pops1985]

But i think. everybody wants to see the results, but also the pic..did it pay off?.

[number twelve]

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