3rd Cycle Critique please

[amature225]

27 years old, 6'2'' 190lbs, 2 cycles under belt

Looking to put on long term muscle, keep water weight to a minimum, and anything to help stimulate appetite. (more cycle history at bottom)


Either:
Wk 1-12: 700mg Test Cyp EW
Wk 1-12: 450mg Deca EW
Wk 1-4: 50mg anadrol ED

or
Wk 1-12: 525mg Tren E (or maybe stay with Tren Ace for 8 wks?)
Wk 1-12: 500mg Test Cyp
(is it possible to add some Deca to help with appetite? what dosage could I add?)


Any feedback would really help out. Feel free to throw out some new ideas. I have never used drol before but wouldn't mind trying it. All I know is that my Tren Ace/Test cyp/prop cycle last time wasn't very impressive.

Cycle History:

1st cycle was 500 Test E / 300 Deca and gained a lot of water weight. not sure from which one) 2nd cycle was Tren Ace 50mg ED / 500mg test cyp, very lean muscle, but not that much gain (I'm not sure if the gear was legit.. it was those 3ml sachets), and this 2nd cycle did NOT stimulate appetite! For the purposes of this post, please assume that Diet is in check (worked on extensively over last 4 months) and so is PCT.

[amature225]

no input on either cycle?

[longhorn814]

for starters, you should run the test a couple weeks longer than the deca or tren, depending on which cycle you choose..the first is more of a classic bulking cycle..the second is more a lean mass cycle, but if youve never ran tren before, I would go with tren a..if the sides are too bad, you can stop and they will be gone in a day or two, not with tren e.

[ricker35910]

deca suppresses my appetite, if you want to be hungry all the time take eq instead.

[amature225]

Deca help my appetite in a huge way! I have used Tren Ace before (50mg ED) for 8 weeks. Sides were not bad at all! Just night sweats, but I get that on every cycle..

There is a slight possibility that my Tren Ace last time was bunk.. I have no way of knowing (it was those 3ml sachets that came out).. anyhow, if I use Tren E and Test Cyp (sinec Test Enan has a bit more water retention), how much Deca could I add to that cycle?
Or would it be better to add drol to the first 4 or 5 weeks? which would help more with appetite and/or mass?

[taiboxa]

i'd lower test to 500 and go w/ the first one.. also run test longer than deca as previously stated

[amature225]

The Test Cyp / Deca cycle will help me put on weight and appetite.. the only downside being the excess water weight that is shed after the cycle.. Is there any way to keep that down? Can I also use Tren E or A in a Test/Deca cycle?

[Sage]

Ldex @ .5

[amature225]

yeah, I have Ldex and will take it .5 EOD (is that enough?)

Also, anyone recommend using Tren A or E allong with this cycle #1 listed above? I have used 500mg test EW before, and I was thinking of raising it a bit for this cycle..

[legobricks]

No don't take deca and tren together in the same cycle dude. Extremely suppresive as it is run them together and you could run into some trouble bouncing back. just stick to the deca/test/dbol cycle with ldex to help control water retention. Deca is pretty suppressive tho so HCG might want to be considered...

[amature225]

ok, I will stick with Test / Deca. how much dbol or drol would I take, and for how long in this cycle?

Wk1-12 700mg Test Cyp
Wk1-10 450mg Deca
Wk1-12 .5mg Ldex EOD (or ED?)
HCG 5,000iu kit in middle

Anthony Roberts PCT at end..

[legobricks]

30mg every day with dbol for the first 4 weeks as a kickstart. could even do 40mg everyday. If I were you id lower the test to 600mg per week and drop the deca to 400mg per week. This right here will be my next winter cycle so i am extremely pumped for it! I honestly have to read up on HCG as i havent used it yet but will for this cycle. so my input on dosage and times for that is non-existant as of now.