1st Cycle

[BackforGood]

Hi all,

I'm 6ft , 154lb & lean.

Have not trained for 10years ( 32 now).

Friend reccomending 8 week cycle of deca/testex - 4ml a week of each = 8ml per week x 8 weeks + 6-8 danabol tabs per day

Is 8ml per week too much ?

[10nispro]

Dont just jump into a cycle. Get your work out and diet in check(lots of calories) until you feel like you plateau, then do one. Start with basics, test for 10-12 weeks. 250mg twice a week. and have a pct ready.

you say 8ml? whats the dosage of the compounds?

[BackforGood]

Dont just jump into a cycle. Get your work out and diet in check(lots of calories) until you feel like you plateau, then do one. Start with basics, test for 10-12 weeks. 250mg twice a week. and have a pct ready.

you say 8ml? whats the dosage of the compounds?

Test for 10-12 weeks ?
250mg is 2ml right ( 4ml a week ?)
Dosage of compounds ?

[taiboxa]

your physically not ready for aas..
way to small.. gain natty for a while.
the weight your at.. it shouldnt be hard to attain gains naturally w/ proper diet

[10nispro]

Dosage of depends on how it is supplied. 10ml vial/250mg per ml is 1ml/250mg. It looks like yours is 125mg/1ml. if so, then yes 4ml/wk.

[10nispro]

thanks tai...I knew you were watching. I was trying to keep it basic.

[BackforGood]

your physically not ready for aas..
way to small.. gain natty for a while.
the weight your at.. it shouldnt be hard to attain gains naturally w/ proper diet

Err. thats why I am taking them ?

I did Test Cyp 10 years ago & I was smaller then & gained 2 stone !

[Johny-too-small]

Go to the grocery store and ask someone where and what food is. Once you are introduced to food, get as much as you can carry and eat it. Repeat this process until it becomes a part of your daily routine.

[TEST_ME!]

154,you really need to check your diet,your just not eating enough!even if you went on a cycle you'd lose your gains afterwards.EAT!

[TEST_ME!]

Go to the grocery store and ask someone where and what food is. Once you are intoduced to food, get as much as you can carry and eat it. Repeat this process until it becomes a part of your daily routine.

Lol

[taiboxa]

Err. thats why I am taking them ?

I did Test Cyp 10 years ago & I was smaller then & gained 2 stone !

your taking them becauase your small?

[canadian meat]

Wow dude you need food not roids seriously.If you dont know how to eat steroids will do nothing for you,youll be very disapointed with results.

[BackforGood]

Obviously I'm going to eat !

I'll be taking in 3500 calories a day, min 200g protein.

+ 4ml test for 10-12 weeks

Problem ?

[canadian meat]

Obviously I'm going to eat !

I'll be taking in 3500 calories a day, min 200g protein.

+ 4ml test for 10-12 weeks

Problem ?

Dude I eat 3500 cals for breakfast try 6000 cals a day

[Johny-too-small]

Obviously I'm going to eat !

I'll be taking in 3500 calories a day, min 200g protein.

+ 4ml test for 10-12 weeks

Problem ?

Why dont you start doing that now, and you'll notice that you'll grow w/o gear. You could put on 40-50lbs natty in no time at all.

[BackforGood]

Dude I eat 3500 cals for breakfast try 6000 cals a day

I'll need 6000 a day ?

Seriously ? Minimum ?

[canadian meat]

I'll need 6000 a day ?

Seriously ? Minimum ?

You need to lay your diet out insteat of your cycle.

[taiboxa]

i think 6k cals would make him a super fatty in no time.

[Big]

Dude I eat 3500 cals for breakfast try 6000 cals a day

you're 240lbs and he's 154lbs, I don't think he should follow your diet at this point.

[BackforGood]

You need to lay your diet out insteat of your cycle.

Well I was just going to eat 3500 cals a day, get the protein in, 2 reflex instant mass shakes & train.

4ml of test a week aint gonna help ?

[Big]

Well I was just going to eat 3500 cals a day, get the protein in, 2 reflex instant mass shakes & train.

4ml of test a week aint gonna help ?

I've seen test that was 75mg/ml and test that was 400mg/ml, saying "4ml" doesn't mean much, state how many mg/week you plan on taking, how many times a week, and for how long so we can understand your cycle.

[canadian meat]

you're 240lbs and he's 154lbs, I don't think he should follow your diet at this point.

LOL Im not saying he should eat 6k a day Im teying to drive the point home HE NEEDS TO EAT.At 6 foot 150 pounds come on man.And correction im 250 now LOL.

[Big]

LOL Im not saying he should eat 6k a day Im teying to drive the point home HE NEEDS TO EAT.At 6 foot 150 pounds come on man.And correction im 250 now LOL.

oh yeah, I agree with you there. I think many people don't understand that if their diet isn't sufficient to gain weight without gear, they won't keep any gains they get from gear.

[BackforGood]

I've seen test that was 75mg/ml and test that was 400mg/ml, saying "4ml" doesn't mean much, state how many mg/week you plan on taking, how many times a week, and for how long so we can understand your cycle.

Well as I said at the beginning of the post, my friend ( 10 year steriod user) was suugesting 4ml of deca & 4ml of testex, 8ml a week in 4 x 2ml jabs per week.

I dont understand the mg/ml bit, but he said they come in 2ml bottles

He reccomended 8 week cycle.

[Big]

Well as I said at the beginning of the post, my friend ( 10 year steriod user) was suugesting 4ml of deca & 4ml of testex, 8ml a week in 4 x 2ml jabs per week.

I dont understand the mg/ml bit, but he said they come in 2ml bottles

He reccomended 8 week cycle.

no price discussions allowed, please edit that out, and to be honest just from what you've told us I wouldn't take any more advice from your friend, he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about.
mg/ml is the concentration of the compound, and you must understand that to cycle effectively, but you shouldn't be cycling yet anyway. Get your diet and training in order and use that time to study, feel free to bounce questions off of us as you go.

[BackforGood]

no price discussions allowed, please edit that out, and to be honest just from what you've told us I wouldn't take any more advice from your friend, he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about.
mg/ml is the concentration of the compound, and you must understand that to cycle effectively, but you shouldn't be cycling yet anyway. Get your diet and training in order and use that time to study, feel free to bounce questions off of us as you go.

Sorry, how do I edit out ?

[Big]

Sorry, how do I edit out ?

no problem, just scroll up to the post in question and click the "edit" button in the lower corner then remove the price. Thanks.

[BackforGood]

and to be honest just from what you've told us I wouldn't take any more advice from your friend, he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about.
mg/ml is the concentration of the compound, and you must understand that to cycle effectively, but you shouldn't be cycling yet anyway. Get your diet and training in order and use that time to study, feel free to bounce questions off of us as you go.

Thanks.

The plan was to train for 2 weeks to get back into the swing of things, then do the 8 week cycle.

My friend has used in the past with no ill-effects & great gains, he does know what he talking about tbh.

I know what I have to eat & obviously remember the exercises, so I thought why not get a bit of help again ( have used test before ) ?

Why not guys , will there really be no gains ?

Thanks again

[Big]

for starters, you never ever want to run test and deca for the same length of time. just out of curiosity, what is your planned pct?

[BackforGood]

for starters, you never ever want to run test and deca for the same length of time. just out of curiosity, what is your planned pct?

I assume test is the same as what he was suggesting ( testex ).

Need to read up on PCT, but know its to ensure you keep your gains after cycle ?

[Big]

he's been doing steroids for 10 years but didn't tell you all about pct? wow.

[BackforGood]

he's been doing steroids for 10 years but didn't tell you all about pct? wow.

I did ask him but he didnt know what it was !

He just does 12 week cycles when he does gear, but always trains through out the year , he hasnt taken gear for 2 years , but is starting his cycle soon aswell.

[Big]

I did ask him but he didnt know what it was !

He just does 12 week cycles when he does gear, but always trains through out the year , he hasnt taken gear for 2 years , but is starting his cycle soon aswell.

Bro, for your own good, don't get any more advice from him. This is serious stuff and you could cause yourself medical problems that will haunt you if you don't take all necessary precautions.

[BackforGood]

Bro, for your own good, don't get any more advice from him. This is serious stuff and you could cause yourself medical problems that will haunt you if you don't take all necessary precautions.

Dont worry, I dont do things lightly.

Steriods are a drugs, and with any drug you do your research which is what I am doing now in terms of what my friend has suggested.

He is a close friend ( my best man @ weddng etc) and I am probably not painting avery clear picture of his character via the internet, but he has NEVER had any ill-effect from his various times of use over thel asy 10 years, so I do trust him.

An 8 week cycle of 4ml deca or testex is going to put me in hospital is it ?

[Titleist]

I'ma reiterate what everyone else has said, you are NOT ready for steroids.

-At your height you have a ton more growing you can do by eating correctly. There is a diet forum on this board, check it out.
-Your friend has no idea what he is talking about. Ml's mean nothing, it's the concentration of the oil you should be concerned about(mg/ml= mg of hormone per ml).
-You haven't even trained in 10 years. Your body isn't physically ready for steroids.

You are looking for an easy way to gain when there isn't one. Sure, you can take AAS, gain some weight, get stronger, etc...then after a couple of months you will be right back where you started because you don't know how to eat to gain/maintain- this is proved by your current weight.

Imagetbigger: Way to stay on top of things

[Big]

Dont worry, I dont do things lightly.

Steriods are a drugs, and with any drug you do your research which is what I am doing now in terms of what my friend has suggested.

He is a close friend ( my best man @ weddng etc) and I am probably not painting avery clear picture of his character via the internet, but he has NEVER had any ill-effect from his various times of use over thel asy 10 years, so I do trust him.

An 8 week cycle of 4ml deca or testex is going to put me in hospital is it ?

the thing most people don't understand is that they could cause problems that will manifest themselves in the future, I'm glad he hasn't had any problems yet, but when he's 50 he may hate life and wish he had done things differently.

[BackforGood]

I'ma reiterate what everyone else has said, you are NOT ready for steroids.

-At your height you have a ton more growing you can do by eating correctly. There is a diet forum on this board, check it out.
-Your friend has no idea what he is talking about. Ml's mean nothing, it's the concentration of the oil you should be concerned about(mg/ml= mg of hormone per ml).
-You haven't even trained in 10 years. Your body isn't physically ready for steroids.

You are looking for an easy way to gain when there isn't one. Sure, you can take AAS, gain some weight, get stronger, etc...then after a couple of months you will be right back where you started because you don't know how to eat to gain/maintain- this is proved by your current weight.

Imagetbigger: Way to stay on top of things

I understand I could gain weight by eating correctly which is what I intended to do, but with a little help.

I dont really need to know the concentration ( I haven't asked him, but he would know) as I trust my friend in terms of what he's buying etc.

I'm not bothered if I lose gains after 10/12 weeks, I'll just keep going to the gym, just want a kickstart so to speak.

[Big]

I understand I could gain weight by eating correctly which is what I intended to do, but with a little help.

I dont really need to know the concentration ( I haven't asked him, but he would know) as I trust my friend in terms of what he's buying etc.

I'm not bothered if I lose gains after 10/12 weeks, I'll just keep going to the gym, just want a kickstart so to speak.

to each his own, good luck.

[BackforGood]

to each his own, good luck.

Thanks for your replies.

[legobricks]

Ya know if you go to a supplement shop and get some NO2 and creatine you could try that combo as well as upping your diet greatly and start lifting hard and heavy....that is if you really feel the need to be ON somthing. Thats what i did when i started lifting and i gained 40lbs natty in a year (LOL greanted a lot was fat and water :-) but i trimmed that down in no time and was on my way to the top!