hcg during or after

**fitguy** · 09-27-2007, 06:27 PM

should i use it during my test deca cycle which will be for 10 weeks or after it?

**Consistency** · 09-27-2007, 06:49 PM

are you running clomid for PCT if so DONT use HCG with clomid. In my opinion hcg isnt necessary for a 10 week cycle, but it couldnt hurt if you HAVE to use it start it at week 6 and run it till 1-2 weeks before PCT. But like i said I wouldnt even mess with it unless your going 15+

**Consistency** · 09-27-2007, 06:50 PM

oh i just noticed that you are running deca with your test, then it wouldnt hurt to run it. If it was test only then dont worry about it

**mx3** · 09-27-2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

should i use it during my test deca cycle which will be for 10 weeks or after it?

I personally dont run hcg during cycle. I use it the last week of my cycle and run it through for 3 wks 500iu a day. Also take it with nolvadex and then continue the nolva through pct.

**Raven88** · 09-27-2007, 07:44 PM

I would only use HCG during cycle in the event that testicular atrophy becomes a concern.

Otherwise, it has a place in my PCT protocol. I will run HCG 1 week pre-PCT and 1 week into PCT. I feel it gives the boys a nice jumpstart as I enter PCT full swing.

**fitguy** · 09-27-2007, 07:58 PM

but isnt it better to prevent testicular atrophy in the 1st place or does it have any negative effects

**Raven88** · 09-28-2007, 01:25 AM

Some people suffer from it more than others and some don't at all. I'll sometimes get a slight case of atrophy during a heavy hitting cycle but not enough that I feel it warrants HCG treatment. On the otherhand, I always include Proviron in every cycle as well. Perhaps this aides in the prevention of shrunken nads to begin with. Don't take my word for it though.

**fitguy** · 09-28-2007, 05:27 AM

now i am confused...

**nofear** · 09-28-2007, 07:44 AM

Im running cycles of HRT. Doc says to use hcg for PCT. For pct they have me do 10 shots of hcg eod and 30 days of clomid. Nuts come back quickly.

**jnm** · 09-28-2007, 01:46 PM

i hear doing 1 shot of 500 iu a week of hcg during cycle will keep the your LH and or natural testerone up, and from shutting down completely. i would probably do that on my second cycle rather than wait weeks and then jump on the hcg. To me it makes more sense to prevent this earlier than later. The only issue i would find doing this is the idea of needing to take nolva with hcg. just my 2 cents.

RA · 09-28-2007, 01:50 PM

I keep it around in case I need it during cycle.(generally I dont need it) I do use it in pct..

**fitguy** · 09-28-2007, 02:47 PM

bump

**fitguy** · 09-28-2007, 06:46 PM

is there any problem if i ran hcg from the start ,i mean desensitization of the testes maybe or anything like that,also i will run test e and deca for 10 weeks,when should i stop the hcg before pct?

**Raven88** · 09-28-2007, 08:06 PM

Overuse of HCG is not good and as you stated, can lead to desensitization and permanently prevent your body from being able to naturally produce gonadotropins. IMO, I would not even bother with any HCG in your proposed cycle. However, it may be good to incorporate it pre-PCT and I would not run the HCG for more that 1-2 weeks into PCT due to it's potential to suppress natty test.

**fitguy** · 09-29-2007, 07:46 AM

how should i use hcg in my cycle and at what doses and when should i stop its use?

**Raven88** · 09-29-2007, 08:36 AM

It's use/need is really individual dependent. It will ultimately be up to you to decide the appropriate dosing protocol based on your individual need. Research this a bit more and you should be able to form an opinion on your own.

Good luck.

**critic7** · 09-29-2007, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Raven88

I would only use HCG during cycle in the event that testicular atrophy becomes a concern.

Otherwise, it has a place in my PCT protocol. I will run HCG 1 week pre-PCT and 1 week into PCT. I feel it gives the boys a nice jumpstart as I enter PCT full swing.

well said raven88