december cycle opinions

**Brazil** · 09-28-2007, 09:41 AM

Ok my next cycle I will have:

40ml tren a @100mg/ml

10 ml test e @300ml

dostinex is available as well as aromasin , femara, and arimidex in the pharmacy. they are all about the same price, but im thinking femara cause the pills come [email protected] mg so I could break em up and use througout the whole cycle where as others i would have to buy 2 or more boxes.

i was thinking this
150 mg tren eod till runs out
150 mg test e till runs out.

and looking for advice on the ai and dostinex.
thinking about splitting letro in 4 for .6 mg per day and the dostinex splitting in half also twice a week.

pct as follows

20 mg per day nolva 4 weeks
100 mg clomid 1 week 50 other three
proviron @50mg for duration

**Johny-too-small** · 09-28-2007, 09:46 AM

So let me get this straight: youre going to run tren a for 7 weeks and test e for 20 weeks?

**largerthannormal** · 09-28-2007, 10:04 AM

wow?

**legobricks** · 09-28-2007, 10:44 AM

The test should be run towards 500mg or more perweek prefferably split into 2 doses. this should counter the side effects from tren as in limp wiener. lol! But serious you need more test in there and possibly run the tren every day to lower sides. Run the test for 12 weeks. you should be good. Maybe try cabergoline for cycle. Dont run nolvadex tho, there is a good read somewhere on the board where it will increase chances of gyno or prolactin or something while using tren. Search it out.

**Brazil** · 09-28-2007, 10:48 AM

well from what i read some others said that a low dose of test was better cause of the sides. and no test e only 10 ml thats about 9 weeks shooting 300mg every six days as noted above. I said 150 mg every three days. woops forgot to put the three days sorry or .5 ml.

so the letro would be good at .6 mg?

**legobricks** · 09-28-2007, 10:52 AM

right but your running more tren than test per week which is not good. test should be higher to prevent total shutdown and possibly have extreme difficulities bouncing back. Also libido is an issue. Sides with test???? Psshhhhh dude id be more worried bout sides with Tren bud. Ha, test is very weak compared to tren. Wish Tai could chime in on this.

**Brazil** · 09-28-2007, 10:58 AM

yeah ive run over 800 mg of test before no prob. but from what ive read tren with high test makes an angry beast. Ill see if I can dig up a thread. I pmd tia also for an oppinion cause he seems to be the master.

**Kratos** · 09-28-2007, 11:03 AM

no reason to run the test higher then the tren , you could even go lower. You may have to in fact, because my math works out like this.

1/2 a cc eod= .5x3.5=1.75
10/1.75= 5.7 weeks of test e

edit: never mind I read your next post about shooting it every 6 days

**PowerHouse555** · 09-28-2007, 11:05 AM

I would drop the dose of tren down and do it every other day to mantain stable blood levels and you should up the dose of T. That low dose will only shut you down, but not enought to give you the "real" benifits

**soulstealer** · 09-28-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by legobricks

right but your running more tren than test per week which is not good. test should be higher to prevent total shutdown and possibly have extreme difficulities bouncing back. Also libido is an issue. Sides with test???? Psshhhhh dude id be more worried bout sides with Tren bud. Ha, test is very weak compared to tren. Wish Tai could chime in on this.

Dude what are you talking about if I was restricted to these compounds I would run the

test @ 1/2cc(150mg) E4D for 11 weeks just higher than HRT dose and will keep your pecker working

and Tren @ 3/4 of a CC till it runs out (about 7.5 weeks)

But then again I wouldnt run something this low.... so bleh I vote you get more sht before you start...

**Kratos** · 09-28-2007, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by PowerHouse555

I would drop the dose of tren down and do it every other day to mantain stable blood levels and you should up the dose of T. That low dose will only shut you down, but not enought to give you the "real" benifits

He'll be shut down from the tren , the test will keep his sex drive and mood out of the toilet. Gains will come from the tren anyway.

**soulstealer** · 09-28-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

He'll be shut down from the tren, the test will keep his sex drive and mood out of the toilet. Gains will come from the tren anyway.

Exactly my point...

**legobricks** · 09-28-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by soulstealer

Dude what are you talking about if I was restricted to these compounds I would run the

test @ 1/2cc(150mg) E4D for 11 weeks just higher than HRT dose and will keep your pecker working

and Tren @ 3/4 of a CC till it runs out (about 7.5 weeks)

But then again I wouldnt run something this low.... so bleh I vote you get more sht before you start...

What are you talking about? I know he needs more sh*t. But tren is very suppressive to your endogeneous testosterone and shuts you down hard. Therefore keep the tren at 150mg EOD or better to go 75mg ED to keep sides lower if its his first time with tren. Test should be up there tho to keep his libido and mood out of the toilet? Why run almost double the dose of tren than test? We all know tren will build muscle regardless but to keep things balanced shouldnt we keep the test higher than the tren dude? If HRT doses are sufficient enought on a tren cycle then why is everyone running 500+mg per week of test prop and 75mg a day for tren? Common cycle.

**Kratos** · 09-28-2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by legobricks

What are you talking about? I know he needs more sh*t. But tren is very suppressive to your endogeneous testosterone and shuts you down hard. Therefore keep the tren at 150mg EOD or better to go 75mg ED to keep sides lower if its his first time with tren. Test should be up there tho to keep his libido and mood out of the toilet? Why run almost double the dose of tren than test? We all know tren will build muscle regardless but to keep things balanced shouldnt we keep the test higher than the tren dude? If HRT doses are sufficient enought on a tren cycle then why is everyone running 500+mg per week of test prop and 75mg a day for tren? Common cycle.

Mabe you need just a bit more than hrt dose to balance out the progesteronic action of the tren on libido, but 150-200mg a week should be more than sufficent. As for running 500 + mg a week, idk, don't need to but people do it. I like more tren than test, works for me and I ended up with a chunky girl friend as a result of the increased sex drive.

**legobricks** · 09-28-2007, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

Mabe you need just a bit more than hrt dose to balance out the progesteronic action of the tren on libido, but 150-200mg a week should be more than sufficent. As for running 500 + mg a week, idk, don't need to but people do it. I like more tren than test, works for me and I ended up with a chunky girl friend as a result of the increased sex drive.

chunky girlfriend!

Anyways, i see what you mean but its not making too much sense to me right now....

Too tired and pissed off at work to be doing math.

I personally wouldnt run anything lower than 500 per week but thats me. If i can get away with it id think bout it but too afraid of the sex drive leaving.

**Brazil** · 09-28-2007, 01:41 PM

ok theres no limit to what i can get here in brazil. my list is like 6 pages of shit. half might be false but it says so on the list. Ive never run tren before so i was thinking about 150 mg eod cause i dont feel like sticking everyday. the test would be at a little over 300 week divided in two.thats like 7 weeks tren and 9 test. So about the letro .6 ed be enough?

**305GUY** · 09-28-2007, 02:00 PM

edit: nevermind should have read more clearly.

**Brazil** · 09-28-2007, 05:41 PM

ok guess there are conflicting arguements with the test. Has any one actually run low test and in another cycle run higher than tren test? If so what were your opinions/results.

**taiboxa** · 09-28-2007, 06:07 PM

and the parrots are thriving...
really as for test all you need is .5ml shot once a week and you will be fine as maintaining libido,mood,avoiding lethargy plus a low dose of test will keep estrogen low making trens sides very mild.

150mg/eod is a perfect dosing scheme IMO.. 75mg will give insane results w/ very minimal sides
looks good to me.. i'd have caber on hand though i doubt you will need any thing other than a low dose of aromasin during your cycle... if u opt to keep ur test low.

**Brazil** · 09-29-2007, 11:04 AM

So what should the dose of aromasin be? @ 300 mg per week of test I should still be alright though eh? I wouldnt want to waste the other 5ml of test e. I plan on doing only 10 weeks.

**Johny-too-small** · 09-29-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Brazil

So what should the dose of aromasin be? @ 300 mg per week of test I should still be alright though eh? I wouldnt want to waste the other 5ml of test e. I plan on doing only 10 weeks.

aromasin @ 12.5mg/ed will be enough.

**Brazil** · 09-29-2007, 03:09 PM

thats nice the pills come in 25mg apiece that means one box´ll do it. Shits expensive here from the pharmacy. I found out dostinex neads a script. It shouldnt be a problem for my guy to get even though its not on his list.