decreased test levels

**fitguy** · 09-28-2007, 06:56 PM

i know that some guys are on hrt or trt for life cause their hormonal levels are ****ed up,i was curious why did you guys undergo trt or hrt therapy,where did you go wrong cause the idea of ****ing up my test levels forever is so scary to me..thanks

**tvd220** · 09-28-2007, 07:39 PM

I have not ****ed up my test levels, but I feel my levels are lower then they would be with out steroid use . I am 25, and my level is around 440. ITs a risk.

**tvd220** · 09-28-2007, 07:40 PM

But If you do your pct right, there is less risk.

**fitguy** · 09-29-2007, 07:44 AM

the idea of having my test levels lowered for life is too scary..

**ottomaddox** · 09-29-2007, 07:49 AM

What's your question, or are you just making an observaton?

**fitguy** · 09-29-2007, 07:55 AM

my question is what are the reasons that my lead to lowering my test levels,what did you guys on trt or hrt do wrong ?

**ottomaddox** · 09-29-2007, 08:14 AM

Look up hypogonadism. Also as men age their testosterone levels decrease, so we get on TRT to recapture our fountain of youth, i.e. bring our levels up to where they were when we were 20 years old. It's not because I did something wrong that I'm on TRT for the rest of my life. That's just how my body works.

**crawdaddy** · 09-29-2007, 08:17 AM

I'm still confused... go wrong? some guys are old, some guys have other problems ie. thyroid,pituitary etc.,some guys just want a legal source. But I think your question is guys for who have damaged their test levels for good from aas...right? like tvd200 said if you do pct correctly their is a lower risk.

**tvd220** · 09-29-2007, 03:42 PM

For me personally, I have only had 2 negative sides from AS use:

1) low test levels (6 months after last cycle)
2) Acne (which was cured after accutane)

**tvd220** · 09-29-2007, 03:44 PM

But the last pct I did, shot my test from 230 to 440, so maybe there is hope. My levels as a 25 year old should be 600-700 (my opinion)

**tvd220** · 09-29-2007, 03:46 PM

If you do decide to do AS, do your self a favor, get a blood test and see what your testosterone levels are prior to AS use, so you know where you stand after a cycle. If you cant get back up, then dont do anymore cycles, and Im sure with time, you will go back to normal with just one cycle. It becomes more difficult once you have done several cycles while being shut down for too long.

**LmbrJak** · 09-29-2007, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

my question is what are the reasons that my lead to lowering my test levels,what did you guys on trt or hrt do wrong ?

For me my pituitary is losing function.I never cycled before TRT.

**LmbrJak** · 09-30-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by crawdaddy

I'm still confused... go wrong? some guys are old, some guys have other problems ie. thyroid,pituitary etc.,some guys just want a legal source. But I think your question is guys for who have damaged their test levels for good from aas...right? like tvd200 said if you do pct correctly their is a lower risk.

I have looked for studies on this but have not found any yet.I have found ones that show that the longer the cycle the longer the recovery.

**fitguy** · 09-30-2007, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by tvd220

For me personally, I have only had 2 negative sides from AS use:

1) low test levels (6 months after last cycle)
2) Acne (which was cured after accutane)

what was your cycle