Nolvadex or arimidex necessary?

**Rockett** · 09-28-2007, 11:50 PM

Im starting a cycle of test cyp 250mg and deca 400mg, I realize this is a low level cycle, so is it necessary to take a serm during this cycle or can i get away with only clomid PCT?

**hugovsilva** · 09-29-2007, 12:46 AM

having nandrolone in the cycle i would still be cautious and run an AI during cycle. You do not say how long you are going to run it, but deca shuts you down hard and 400mg/week is not a low dose so I would review the pct.

**Raven88** · 09-29-2007, 05:16 AM

I recommend always having an AI on hand regardless of what the cycle entails.

As stated above, deca will suppress your natural test production rapidly and you will need a sound PCT protocol. I would not go about it with just clomid, in fact I don't even like clomid. Too many sides from it.

Good luck.

**Raven88** · 09-29-2007, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Rockett

so is it necessary to take a serm during this cycle or can i get away with only clomid PCT?

You do know that clomid is a SERM, right? Sounds like you are having trouble differentiating a SERM from an AI. Perhaps some research is best advised here.

**Prada** · 09-29-2007, 10:20 AM

Yes you should have an AI or SERM on the side, no need to take risks. Also taking lower levels of test in certain cases is understandable but why are you taking so little?

**Merc..** · 09-29-2007, 10:46 AM

Dont take nolva with a 19 (nor) , it increases PgR in breast tissue and gives more for the metabolites to bind to and can increase your chances of getting gyno..

You could look into using an AI like Adex or letro.....

Merc.

**Merc..** · 09-29-2007, 10:47 AM

Also clomid only is not a good pct....

Merc.

**pr0digy9daniel** · 09-29-2007, 12:54 PM

Letro and a bit of nolva is always good, but I agree, letro is better run during cycle... Nolva increases total estrogen and can cause problems with 19nor's... Aromasin /Arimidex work as well, if not better, but you generally dont want estrogen going too low, as its needed for muscle synthesis, libido, and a bone mineralisation, as well as other things... Id use nolva/clomid or nolva/letro/hcg for pct is good...

**Rockett** · 09-29-2007, 01:04 PM

thanks for all the advice.

**Raven88** · 09-29-2007, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Dont take nolva with a 19 (nor) , it increases PgR in breast tissue and gives more for the metabolites to bind to and can increase your chances of getting gyno..

You could look into using an AI like Adex or letro.....

Merc.

Good post.