What The @#*&

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:11 PM

the more I read the more confused I get, anthony roberts says use hcg aromasin and nolvadex , then I read no nolva while on deca HELP PLEASE DECA 10 WEEKS 400 EVERY 8 DAYS
TEST C 12 WEEKS could I just use hcg and aromasin thruout and nolva 20 days later or no nolva ? am 37 , 2nd cycle , 1st cycle inject, recovering from shoulder surgery, am lifting now, strength is returning ,size is getting noticeable,not looking to be a monster,just want a straight cycle and pct info, sorry for being a stupid newbie , but like I said , the more I read the more confused I get, just want to finish cycle with nuts intact ,

**3bd** · 10-02-2007, 03:16 PM

Forget about Nolva until it's time for PCT. You need to research Cabergoline and Letrozole (sp?) while on cycle with deca .

**3bd** · 10-02-2007, 03:17 PM

Caber and Letro

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:18 PM

togther or one or the other ? still need hcg and aromasin or no

**deltaguy** · 10-02-2007, 03:19 PM

not a stupid question bro
there is a ton of contradicting info out there
i have not personally read ar's pct program because i have had way too many successful cycles to start changing things now
hcg while on... 500iu e5d few weeks on - few weeks off keep doing this up until the day before your pct is to begin. do not however use it during pct.
I run nolva while on 20mgs ed to combat estrogen sides, adex .25mgs eod to take care of the pain in the ass bloat. also cabergoline .5mgs e4d. aromasin , nolva and clomid for pct... 6 weeks min. not the clomid mind you (first week to 10 days) but the aromasin and nolva. i would keep letro on hand in case of gyno but with this program, i don't see that happening

i have come off of tren cycles, deca /dbol /test cycles and the average weight i lose after any cycle/pct is 20%... not bad considering most lose 50% or even more.

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:23 PM

hello ? any one ? have mercy , please

**3bd** · 10-02-2007, 03:24 PM

First read this...

http://www.steroid.com/Deca.php

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:25 PM

thanks delta guy , that helps alot, will research those , thanks again

**3bd** · 10-02-2007, 03:25 PM

And then go here...

http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

everything you wanted to know about PCT will be found here (for the most part anyway)

**deltaguy** · 10-02-2007, 03:26 PM

you got it brother.

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:31 PM

I've read that alot but somehow didnt comprehend , thanks for making me read it again, so caber during ,right to end of cycle ? or cut off sometime b4 starting pct withnolva hcg and whatabout aroasin?

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:32 PM

aromasin , sorry

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:33 PM

thanks for being patient guys! will look into info you provided! thanks again

**jcurse** · 10-02-2007, 03:35 PM

was just getting mixed up with pct while stacking deca with test c, just wanted to make sure I covered all bases

**3bd** · 10-02-2007, 03:36 PM

Take the caber to the end of the cycle, and don't forget the letro - if you missed that go back and read up on the deca info again. As for the PCT, it's kind of a personal preference - that's why you have to do some reading and pick what you want to do. Usually it is either a combination of nolva and clomid, or hcg and nolva. The best thing to do is read some in the PCT thread, porpose and post your PCT and a vet will come along and critique it for you. This is the best way to learn.