Got a quick question?

[Hawse]

Aright, here is another dumb newbie question. I was about to give myself my first injection, had the needle all the way in and had someone who I don't want to know what I'm doing start to walk in. I was just bout to aspirate at this time. I pulled it out and waited until today to inject, but I did not use that dose. Is it alright to use for my thursday injection or is that a wasted dose? It is still in the syringe. Thanks guys

[soulstealer]

Aright, here is another dumb newbie question. I was about to give myself my first injection, had the needle all the way in and had someone who I don't want to know what I'm doing start to walk in. I was just bout to aspirate at this time. I pulled it out and waited until today to inject, but I did not use that dose. Is it alright to use for my thursday injection or is that a wasted dose? It is still in the syringe. Thanks guys

your fine just change the needle

[topnotch]

just like soulstealer said...pull back some air in the syringe, and replace the needle...it's good to go

[3bd]

Hmmmm.... did you put the cap back on the pin after you aborted? The part that bothers me is that you aspirated and now a few days have elapsed.

[Hawse]

That is exactly what I was wondering 3**, althou I did not aspirate enough to draw anything back into the syringe. Yea I put the cap back on.

[3bd]

You should be okay. This is what you have an immune system for anyway. Just make sure that you change the pin right away... even if your not going to shoot for a while. Swab your inj site with an alcohol pad first too. BTW, what are you going to shoot for the first time? What's your game plan. Let's check you out to make sure you're safe.

[Hawse]

I already injected today for the first time, went pretty smooth. I followed the injections sticky on here, was very helpful considering I have never done anything like this before. As far as the alcohol pads I am sure I used more than enough, that was one thing I was paranoid about. So just to be sure, it will kept form monday to thurday out of the vial and in the syringe right? Thanks

[Hawse]

Sorry I didn't read the whole post, 10Wks of omardren 250 twice a week, starting winny on wk4 for 6wks also twice a week.

[LmbrJak]

Sorry I didn't read the whole post, 10Wks of omardren 250 twice a week, starting winny on wk4 for 6wks also twice a week.

twice a week, or twice a day?

[Hawse]

winny twice a week for 6wks

[3bd]

Sorry I didn't read the whole post, 10Wks of omardren 250 twice a week, starting winny on wk4 for 6wks also twice a week.

Okay you've got a lot to learn yet. I would recomend going back to the home page that landed you here and read everything you can find for the future. Yes... your omarden 250 will keep in the syringe for this amount of time. I've kept gear stored for a week at a time with no problem. Keep it out of the light and keep it cool. Don't recommend much more than a week.

[3bd]

Your not going to be very impressed with your first cycle btw.

[Dog-Slime]

Winny should be taken everyday. If you dont wanna inject everyday, drink it. Also, I would recommend doing the winny weeks 6-12... This way you have something in you during that 2 week lag time of waiting for the test ester to clear.

[J*U*icEd]

wow what a cycle!!... ur injection schedule is way way off!!

[topnotch]

the omnadren should be alright..you'd probably see better results shooting eod, but twice a week i think you'll still get good gains...if your only going to take the winni twice per week, it's useless...it needs to be taken everyday...

[deltaguy]

hmmm
what if he has an oil based winny cyp????? the twice a week would be fine in that scenario... .although i have to admit the schedule seems a little odd. i would def finish the cycle with the winny instead of using it in the middle.

[topnotch]

hmmm
what if he has an oil based winny cyp????? the twice a week would be fine in that scenario... .although i have to admit the schedule seems a little odd. i would def finish the cycle with the winny instead of using it in the middle.

is the winny cyp even out yet? i've heard recently about it in the progress, but i've not known of it being out yet...any idea?

[deltaguy]

is the winny cyp even out yet? i've heard recently about it in the progress, but i've not known of it being out yet...any idea?

yes it is --- well, was... i shouldn't give any further details at this point i suppose. but i do have some waiting to be utilized.

[topnotch]

that's cool...like i said, i hadn't heard...i'd love to hear about it when you find out..you can shoot me a pm if you dont wanna say anything openly...

[Hawse]

why is it such a bad cycle? because of the injection times of the winny? And I have done a ton of research on this. It's not like I just found some and decided to just "take it". Why won't I be impressed with this cycle?

[neverenuff21]

[neverenuff21]

I dont like it.

[3bd]

Your not going to be very impressed with your first cycle btw.

This is why I said he needed to go back and do some studying.

[Hawse]

So you really don't have anything to say as to why I won't like it. Or do you just not know, I mean if you have the answer save me some time lend me you insight. Instead of making dumb comments just to get your post count up.

[topnotch]

I think w/ the omnadren you should have a regular beginner cycle...it's 500mg/week for 10 weeks...it's usaully recommended for cyp or eth, but he's still using test at 500mg per week, so if your diet and training are in check you can make some good gains...did you say this is your first cycle?

[football2007]

is the winny cyp even out yet? i've heard recently about it in the progress, but i've not known of it being out yet...any idea?

lol is it out? U can make w/e u want

[Hawse]

Yea it's my first.

[topnotch]

lol is it out? U can make w/e u want

I've not even seen any of the powders out yet, so how can you make it w/ out powders

[topnotch]

Yea it's my first.

Then, I would say keep your cycle running at 500mg/week for 10-12 weeks and you'll have good results...you may want to shoot the omnadren every other day for even more stable blood levels, but you can get away w/ twice per week...you can throw the winni in towards the end to help shed away some water weight...but like everybody has said...you need to take it everyday

[largerthannormal]

back to the original ? hmmm buy a lock for your door so mommy doesnt walk in..problem solved. and doesnt look like ur runnin ur gear the right way either.

[Hawse]

Largerthannormal go fvck yourself, I was trying to hide it from your wife. And I haven't started taking the winny yet so I can change that to how ever I need to. Thanks for the help Topnotch

[neverenuff21]

Easy there big guy. Alot of guys just dont look kindly on guys cycling that cant be open about at home. Its just a recipe for disaster. You WILL get caught evetually. And if she/parents freak, we and everyone you've dealt with/talked to are now involved.

I understand that not everyone is accepting, but thats something you should consider BEFORE you start. Be a salesman, sell the idea to them so the risk isnt there.

And if your still going to do it, cant you just take your shot when "they" are not home? Is it so necessary that you take it while they're in the other room? Adapt to your surroundings. Cover your ass.

[neverenuff21]

As for the cycle, yeah we all think it sucks. But that wasnt the question. So its really none of our business. Unfortunately, alot of guys on the board fail to respond to the actual question only. They just want to critique you altogether.

On the brightside, I've been asking one question before, and found a solution to another without even thinking about it. You never really know what you'll learn. So take with a grain and a thanks but no thanks attitude.

[topnotch]

As for the cycle, yeah we all think it sucks. But that wasnt the question. So its really none of our business. Unfortunately, alot of guys on the board fail to respond to the actual question only. They just want to critique you altogether.

On the brightside, I've been asking one question before, and found a solution to another without even thinking about it. You never really know what you'll learn. So take with a grain and a thanks but no thanks attitude.

Why does the cycle suck? Other than throwing the winny in there, and using omni instead of cyp or eth, it's your basic beginner cycle, that everyone recommends

[Hawse]

Yea my bad, It was more or less someone knocking on my door that didn't need to know what was going on. Everyone that is close knows. Thanks again Topnotch, just wondering why it's so bad?

[topnotch]

no problem bro...just tryin to help...i think your cycle is fine

[neverenuff21]

Ok, my bad. Im looking over the thread. It doesnt suck. But I wouldn't ever recommend a multi-estered test for a first timer. Just me. I it can be so unpredictable and your levels could jump around quite a bit. And if they do, you wont know what/how to correct it. The longer single esters are just a hell of alot more predictable. Not everyone is "good" at listening to they're body. It took me a while to start to really feel my hormone levels. still getting used to it with certain compounds.

I wouldnt throw the winny in just yet. Save it for the next cycle. You'll be plenty happy with the first cycle of omna alone, trust me. (pending diet and training)

If your stuck on it, I wouldnt do it in the middle of a cycle. Some of those tests are gonna be in your system clear past 12-13 weeks. Again I wouldnt even put it in the first, but if your going to. start it at 8 or nine so that it will be in effect all the way through the test remains and you'll be able to take full advantage of itd SHBG binding effects.

[neverenuff21]

Oh and Id shoot EOD. (omna)

[topnotch]

I agree w/ you neverenuff about adding the winni in at the end...it'll help shed any water the test has put on ya too...yeah, the blood levels aren't going to be as stable...some people can tell, some can't tell...hope it goes great for ya...keep us posted

[Hawse]

Thanks guys, I had planned on Test E but that didn't pan out. So with the winny start it at wk8or 9 huh? And run it for 6wks making it a 14wk cycle?