a little help with my stuff...right or wrong?

[eddy tye]

hello again,

stats:

5.9
170#'s
11%b/f
24yrs old

i was on my first cycle...a small one at that

1cc test cyp every week+50mg tab winstrol ed

i stoped the test after just 5 weeks due to a small case of gyno that scared the shit out me to be honest,i just need a little help on this please and guidance,wether to contiune what im doing (going to be doing) or stoping all together,because im pretty shure im not gonna (juice) anymore till i totaly under stand EVERYTHING!!!! and i feel it might take a while (sorry for the wondering off) anyway...

i started taking one 50mg tab (winstrol) in the morning and one at night,i have to say i can see a change allready,just by doing this for the last week...i also will be getting (letro) in the next day or two for the gyno and water retention...(how many sprays for that???)

ANY HELP ON THIS WILL BE AWSOME,GIVE IT TO ME STRAIT!!!

thanks again

[eddy tye]

also,my goals are set to be lean (very lean) 7-8% b/f

[eddy tye]

bump,to the top

[stocky121]

winny and letro may kill your joints mate

[eddy tye]

yea,they allready hurt...im taken some glucose w/msm?

im allmost done with my winny tab cylce,few more days...anymore coments on this thread,please

[eddy tye]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=winstrol

thanks for any help at all guys,im in need of advise

[topnotch]

you could resume your test, and use about .5mg of letro eod to keep your water retention and gyno down...if you have gyno still, you can use letro to reverse it also.

[eddy tye]

any help guys?

[eddy tye]

thanks for the reply,

i'v allready stoped the test last week and a half ago and im pretty shure im proned to gyno,cause i was on a low dose...not gonna/dont want to start that up again

is that the normal dosage for letro? if i have the spary bottle kind how many pumps is that?

[topnotch]

someone else may want to quote, but i think 10 sprays is 2.5mg...so, every spray is .25...if i'm not mistaken

[eddy tye]

bump

[eddy tye]

someone else may want to quote, but i think 10 sprays is 2.5mg...so, every spray is .25...if i'm not mistaken

thanks for the help mann,

[millionairemurph]

letro is good stuff man that should fix you up.

[eddy tye]

letro is good stuff man that should fix you up.

i shure hope so im getting freaked out by these nips...lol

what else should i do for the joint pain,winny and letro drains your body of water so im guessing it's gonna get bad...

edit:but im allmost finished with the winny (3 more days)

[topnotch]

yeah, i started getting gyno, when i was on my first cycle of test cyp...i let it get pretty good sized before i started the letro, so i had to use c-bino's gyno reversal guide...my joints were freakin killin me...if i put anything over 275 on the bench i was wanting to cry...i had been repping out 315 for 10...but within a few weeks the gyno was gone, and i just used a spray a day to maintain then and the pain went away

[eddy tye]

wow,i hope it's that easy for me? i'll keep my fingers crossed...

i red (c binos) guide to gyno when i forst joined,i dident quite understand all the lingo words in the thread...

in a nut shell,whats the reversal plan? just the letro (one spray a day?

thanks for the help guys

[topnotch]

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.



I copied and pasted that from bino's page... That means, .25mg with ar-r's letro is equal to 1 spray....2.5mg is equal to 10 sprays...etc.

[eddy tye]

ok,thanks a whole lot...

an anti-e is what?

iv allready taken a whole bottle of 60x0 @ 6 pills per night,i know this stuff sucks in this world but it was all i had to go on at the time of (freaken out) lol

thanks again

[topnotch]

anti-e means ant-estrogen...nolva, letro, a-dex, etc...

[eddy tye]

can i just use letro at a good dosage and thats it? all i want is this gyno to go down and i'll be juice free for a while...