Is this gyno ? HELP !

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 03:21 PM

I just itched my nipped and felt some bulge under it, its invisible to the outside, but when i push it i can feel theres something under it.

Is it gyno ? at what stage ?
Can just tamoxifen kill it ? or do i have to get letro...

Should I stop the cycle now at week 8 ? or continue with the anti E drugs will week 12-14 as planned

**fatrock** · 10-05-2007, 03:30 PM

Whats your age and what cycle are you running right now?

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 03:32 PM

22, test 500mg per week this is my 2nd.

**Roidal** · 10-05-2007, 03:36 PM

That's probably in it's early stage.

**fatrock** · 10-05-2007, 03:38 PM

I would pick up some letro, but you can try tamoxifen first since you didnt experience any gyno your first cycle. It is always best to take it out asap.

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 03:40 PM

I would consider using nolva until symptoms subside..

Merc.

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 03:45 PM

at what dose ? 40mg per day ? continue with the cycle ?
also, AR says letro reversed his gyno but i cant get it now... can Tamox reverse gyno too ? i have lots of it.

also, should I start it now, and continue 6 weeks after i finish the cycle ? that would be like 2-3 months on tamox

**Titan 3** · 10-05-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by JasonR

at what dose ? 40mg per day ? continue with the cycle ?
also, AR says letro reversed his gyno but i cant get it now... can Tamox reverse gyno too ? i have lots of it.

also, should I start it now, and continue 6 weeks after i finish the cycle ? that would be like 2-3 months on tamox

Why can't you get the letro now? Order it from lion at ar-r . Read C-Bino's write-up on this stuff. Sounds like the only way to go. GL, bro!

**Jenseno9** · 10-05-2007, 06:48 PM

Dude, I've had the same symptoms. I just took nolva at a higher dose until the symptoms went away and then at a much lower dose for the rest my cycle. Sorry I can't remember what dosages to take im sure someone else will though.

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by JasonR

at what dose ? 40mg per day ? continue with the cycle ?
also, AR says letro reversed his gyno but i cant get it now... can Tamox reverse gyno too ? i have lots of it.

also, should I start it now, and continue 6 weeks after i finish the cycle ? that would be like 2-3 months on tamox

Nolva is use to reverse gyno but its a long ineffective protocol IMO..

You could consider starting it now at about 20 mg ED until symptoms subside, then you could drop it or run it all the way through , its up to you..

Merc.

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Nolva is use to reverse gyno but its a long ineffective protocol IMO..

You could consider starting it now at about 20 mg ED until symptoms subside, then you could drop it or run it all the way through , its up to you..

Merc.

is it a near 100% shot the lumps go away on nolva ? from your personal experience and what u have read ? how long does it usually take

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by JasonR

is it a near 100% shot the lumps go away on nolva ? from your personal experience and what u have read ? how long does it usually take

No nothing is postive but having surgery.. Using any protocol is just an attempt to avoid going under the knife and having it removed..

I cant remember but from studies I have read I think its something like 18 months using nolva. I am not postive on that but its some long amount time, and like I said IMO is ineffective.

Merc.

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 08:40 PM

o man

im so restless now ... i hate it !

should i cut all testosterone administration right away ?

i really hope i dont have to go through surgery for this, i dont have any money

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by JasonR

o man

im so restless now ... i hate it !

should i cut all testosterone administration right away ?

i really hope i dont have to go through surgery for this, i dont have any money

Its going to be up to you if you stop your cycle or not..

If possible you could try binos gyno reversal ..

**JasonR** · 10-05-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Merc.

Its going to be up to you if you stop your cycle or not..

If possible you could try binos gyno reversal ..

heck i'll stop it if it helps.. shouldnt it go back to normal after if i hop on PCT and stop AAS ? still, it was formed 2-3 weeks ago tops. possibly sooner..

lets say i stop now, do PCT for 3 months, and never use AAS again
it will just stay the way it is now and not get worse right ?

thanks for all the help, i will try to get letro.

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by JasonR

heck i'll stop it if it helps.. shouldnt it go back to normal after if i hop on PCT and stop AAS ? still, it was formed 2-3 weeks ago tops. possibly sooner..

lets say i stop now, do PCT for 3 months, and never use AAS again
it will just stay the way it is now and not get worse right ?

thanks for all the help, i will try to get letro.

Like I said its totally up to you on if you decide to stop your cycle..

Have you read binos gyno reversal ? You can try to reverse it on cycle using his protocol...

If you do stop just do a proper pct.. You really dont need to do a 3 month pct.

Letro works wonders for some peeps and doesnt help for others so its hard too say if it will help you or not..

Merc.

**Merc..** · 10-05-2007, 09:49 PM

Heres a link to Binos gyno reversal protocol in case you haven't seen it..

All you need to know about GYNO.

Merc.

**topnotch** · 10-05-2007, 10:23 PM

man, give the letro a try...i had the same thing on my cycle of test cyp at 500mg/week, and i used c-bino's guide for reversal, and it got rid of it within 2 weeks...my joints hurt like crazy from it, but the gyno was gone...and i continuted cycle..after the gyno was gone i used .25mg/day for the remainder of my cycle and i had no more problems

**JasonR** · 10-06-2007, 11:31 AM

thanks guys, yea ive read binos guide and i will DEF get letro for the next cycle
I stopped the cycle yesterday, and took 40mg nolva, nips feel better, i will go ahead with just nolva for another week or two at 40mg, also i will let the enanthate wash out of me and we'll see if that works.

meanwhile i'll try to get letro (my source is 300 miles away and we always meet up 1x1, i never deal with mail and stuff like that) and if the nolva doesnt eliminate it by the next 2 weeks, i'll attack with letro, although research have shown that nolva is perfect for lumps (4-8 weeks to total elimination)

**topnotch** · 10-06-2007, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by JasonR

thanks guys, yea ive read binos guide and i will DEF get letro for the next cycle
I stopped the cycle yesterday, and took 40mg nolva, nips feel better, i will go ahead with just nolva for another week or two at 40mg, also i will let the enanthate wash out of me and we'll see if that works.

meanwhile i'll try to get letro (my source is 300 miles away and we always meet up 1x1, i never deal with mail and stuff like that) and if the nolva doesnt eliminate it by the next 2 weeks, i'll attack with letro, although research have shown that nolva is perfect for lumps (4-8 weeks to total elimination)

You can continue cycle, and just order the letro off of ar-r .com and have it in a few days...it's legal, so you dont have to worry about trouble or anything..