how much experience for tren

[lil-SLIM]

people always say not to do tren till your experienced... when is a good time to try tren?

3rd cycle?
10th?
1000th?

[joey11]

i feel that if using tren for the first time you should always use tren acetate, cause if the sides are too much to handle you can drop it and the sides stop quickly. you should also know how you react to test and what ever else your using along with it first so you know what sides are caused by what compund. other than that start with a low dose like 50mg ed for first time and have fun, cause it's a great compund with test and d-bol.

[hugovsilva]

Tren's sides can be harsh. You are ready for it after a test only cycle (to know how you react to test) and have enough knowledge about how to run it and avoid its sides (which most do not know after a test only cycle). I agree on the acetate ester as it clears much faster in case a problem appears.

[lil-SLIM]

its not in my next cycle which will be my third but was considering it for my fourth cycle

[joey11]

it's not amount of cycles that determines when to use it. as long as you know the sides of the other compounds your using along with it are you can spot the tren sides if they get too much to handle. i personally dont get too bad of sides from even 150mg ed but everyone is different.

what are your cycle and training history?