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    Test P & Tren...No Pain?????

    After getting blood test cleared with doc(natural test levels were actually high), I decided to go ahead and start my Test\tren \winny cycle. I shot 75mg Tren and 100mg Test Prop yesterday(quad) and I had absolutely no pain at all yesterday or today, I thought this stuff was supposed to be painful?? Seriously I cant even tell I had an injection at all?? Yes gear is legite,,, Edited. Do not post lab names.

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    depends on who made the gear...

    some is painful some is not.

    report back on your results. will be interresting to see how the gear works.

    is all gear from balkan ?

    im on 100mg winny tabs/day right now, and I can tell you the shit is gooood

    I get crazy pumps, and some scary cramps and this is winny only right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markosterone
    depends on who made the gear...

    some is painful some is not.

    report back on your results. will be interresting to see how the gear works.

    is all gear from balkan ?

    im on 100mg winny tabs/day right now, and I can tell you the shit is gooood

    I get crazy pumps, and some scary cramps and this is winny only right now.
    Test Tren and winny are all Balkan. Running Test at 100mg EOD and Tren at 75mg EOD,,,,winny at 50mg ED...first shot yesterday and first winny tab this morning,,,,oh and I guess it would be best to split 50mg winny tabs in two and take one morning and one night??

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    I take my winny 1 in the morning after breakfest 09:00, and 1 at 14:30, with my protein.
    Then workout in the gym at 16:30.

    I take my second one atleast 2hrs before workout. this way in all loaded up for a great workout

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    is Balken pharm grade or UGL??... cause ive made my own tren and test P painless... and when i couldn't get the raw ive gotten some painless testP and tren....

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    Balkan is pharm grade, real good stuff from what I hear so we will see.

    Iron, what in the world are you wanting to see pics of???...

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    I like the Balkan prop. Especially after the first week. Different kind of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninpony
    Balkan is pharm grade, real good stuff from what I hear so we will see.

    Iron, what in the world are you wanting to see pics of???...
    your wife or girlfriend please

    j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    your wife or girlfriend please

    j/k
    Last time I did that(post pics) I almost got banned....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goin on 4T
    I like the Balkan prop. Especially after the first week. Different kind of pain.
    did it hurt ?

    im interrested to get some too thats why...

    ive ran some prop once and I could hardly work out.

    was the gear any good ? gains ? stenght ?
    Last edited by Markosterone; 10-10-2007 at 08:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goin on 4T
    I like the Balkan prop. Especially after the first week. Different kind of pain.
    Im interested to know what you mean by different kind of pain as well. This Balkan prop and tren together gave me absolutely no pain at all, seriously I wouldnt even know I stuck myself if I hadnt done it myself.

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    good to know its painless. hopefully its good gear.

    keep us posted runninpony!

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    sonofamothafuknbitch,,,I spoke too soon!!! LOL. Well my second shot in my other quad didnt go as good I guess. Not bad at all, not like its that ******* shit or nothin, but I did have some good soreness the next day. Guess I must have hit the perfect spot the first time!! Anyway not bad at all, Ive had MUCH worse pain!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markosterone
    did it hurt ?

    im interrested to get some too thats why...

    ive ran some prop once and I could hardly work out.

    was the gear any good ? gains ? stenght ?

    I am only on my second week with the balkan. So I can't say whether its good yet.

    The pain with the first UGL was crippling and made me bloat up like 10-12lbs the first two weeks.
    The pain from the second the UGL was less and it was better quality.
    The pain from the Balkan was different. I might have had an allergic reaction to the grapeseed oil. The balkan does not have that. The difference in the pain is not a killing pain just a need to strech the muscle than it goes away by day 3 for sure. With the UGL's it was there for like 5-6 days. It sucked. After the Balkan my heart feels like it is beating harder and my body feels different. I didn't get the change in sex drive that I thought I should but that might just be from stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninpony
    sonofamothafuknbitch,,,I spoke too soon!!! LOL. Well my second shot in my other quad didnt go as good I guess. Not bad at all, not like its that ******* shit or nothin, but I did have some good soreness the next day. Guess I must have hit the perfect spot the first time!! Anyway not bad at all, Ive had MUCH worse pain!!!
    I also started using 25 guage not 22 guage needles. But the pain is less severe and goes away with-in 3 days. Nothing worse than not being able to get out of bed a night to take a piss because the pain was so bad that I would not be able to get back to sleep.
    I just wish there was an inexensive way to test the gear for actual %!

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninpony
    sonofamothafuknbitch,,,I spoke too soon!!! LOL. Well my second shot in my other quad didnt go as good I guess. Not bad at all, not like its that ******* shit or nothin, but I did have some good soreness the next day. Guess I must have hit the perfect spot the first time!! Anyway not bad at all, Ive had MUCH worse pain!!!
    try and keep the pin as still as possible and push slowly. also once done massage injection site for a few minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwick
    Read the board rules. Do not post lab names.
    you can't post lab-names and you would have a better shot in the picture section.
    Last edited by Markosterone; 10-14-2007 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock75
    try and keep the pin as still as possible and push slowly. also once done massage injection site for a few minutes
    Yeah thats what I do. Like I said the pain isnt bad at all, matter of fact on a scale 1-10 I would say its about a 4-5, with that UGL stuff thats comes in the packets being about a 9-10!!! My leg yesterday actually felt more achy then muscle pain. Today will go in the glute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markosterone
    you can't post lab-names and you would have a better shot in the picture section.
    thanks for editing your quote
    Last edited by rock75; 10-15-2007 at 06:38 PM.

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    did you feel any pain yet??? severe pain??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwick
    Read the board rules. Do not post lab names.

    EDIT YOUR ORIGINAL POST PLEASE...or

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasmk4
    did you feel any pain yet??? severe pain??
    My previous post explains pain so far, plus I sent you a PM the other day. So far Im very surprised at how painless this gear is. And its absolutely amazing the results I have got so far. It has never felt so good, to feel so damn bad....My arms are jacked like hercules, and my strength and stamina in the gym has everyone standing back watching and whispering, cant imagine what there thinking LOL, but by the time the day goes on all I want to do is lay in the bed and feel sorry for myself cause I feel so damn horrible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by runninpony
    I want to do is lay in the bed and feel sorry for myself cause I feel so damn horrible....

    why do you feel horrible??? i am thinking of running a 12 week cycle of propionate and equipoise this is my first injectable cycle i've done a d-bal cycle for about 2 weeks in past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasmk4
    why do you feel horrible??? i am thinking of running a 12 week cycle of propionate and equipoise this is my first injectable cycle i've done a d-bal cycle for about 2 weeks in past.
    I feel horrible because tren kicks me in my balls,,,HARD. From the sounds of it you have very little experience so be sure and do a ton of research on both the cycle and PCT before you pick up a pin bro!

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    you're right bro, thats why i am trying to gather all the information i can before i start my first cycle. I don't want to freak out in between the cycle. I am going to have clomid on the hand for PCT, do you have any suggestion??? since you know more about the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasmk4
    you're right bro, thats why i am trying to gather all the information i can before i start my first cycle. I don't want to freak out in between the cycle. I am going to have clomid on the hand for PCT, do you have any suggestion??? since you know more about the cycle.
    You will definately need more than just clomid for PCT. I dont like clomid myself and will actually run Nolva and Letro for my PCT this time. Arimidex would actually be a good replacement for the Letro but I already got the Letro so thats what Im going to run. You really need both a SERM and an AI. I suggest for best results go with Anthony Roberts PCT protocol, you should be able to find it in the PCT forum. My best advise is read read read. Be sure you know what your dealing with.

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    sorry wrong thread

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    Hows those balkan products working out for you so far?

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