Do I Really Need To Do Pct?

[RAM2500]

My girlfriend thinks my cycle was too short to require PCT.

I have been using 1000-1200 mg of Test per 7 days for the past 21 days. I insist that I need PCT since at this dose, my endogenous testosterone production has completely shut down. My girlfriend dosent believe this is possible but I can't convince her without a technical explanation. Can someone help?

[freakon]

hmmmm good Q's.....in my opinion it is always safer to err on the safe side!

[fsu1985]

i honestly am a strong beleive that your levels will go back on. they always have for me. its just like anything else- be patient. i have done it twice without pct and im fine, im also only 22. your gonna have a lag period though, expect that!

[RAM2500]

Great Answer!!!!Thats great that you're "A strong beleive" that most people dont need PCT.

i honestly am a strong beleive that your levels will go back on. they always have for me. its just like anything else- be patient. i have done it twice without pct and im fine, im also only 22. your gonna have a lag period though, expect that!

[snoogans]

I don't mean to be mean, but wtf?!?
Is your girlfriend doing the cycle or are you?
I say get some pct just in case, it doesnt hurt to be safe... Just becuz "fsu1985" did the cycles without pct and he's ok doesn't mean you're gonna be the same... remember, everyone's body is different... don't go by what other people think if they havn't done it (im mean your girlfriend no offense).. what i would do is take pct but just use lower dosages than if you were on a full cycle... Im sorry if i was being a little harsh but i see too many people say the same thing and end up all retarted in the end, just trying to help out.. i mean for all i know your girlfriend is a doctor or something but w/e lol... oh and by the way your own production of testosterone shuts down between 14-21 days, so it is possible what you said...

[RAM2500]

How do you substantiate that?

I don't mean to be mean, but wtf?!?
Is your girlfriend doing the cycle or are you?
I say get some pct just in case, it doesnt hurt to be safe... Just becuz "fsu1985" did the cycles without pct and he's ok doesn't mean you're gonna be the same... remember, everyone's body is different... don't go by what other people think if they havn't done it (im mean your girlfriend no offense).. what i would do is take pct but just use lower dosages than if you were on a full cycle... Im sorry if i was being a little harsh but i see too many people say the same thing and end up all retarted in the end, just trying to help out.. i mean for all i know your girlfriend is a doctor or something but w/e lol... oh and by the way your own production of testosterone shuts down between 14-21 days, so it is possible what you said...

[Kale]

How do you substantiate that?

From being on this board for a number of years and hearing member after member bitching and complaining about gyno sides and no sex drive as a result of no pct. Go ahead and listen to her but be prepare for the "I told you so"

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

just play it safe and take a moderate nolvadex/clomid combo (20mg/50md ED) for 3-4 weeks(proviron optional) and go get bloodwork. At 3 weeks, your testicles should not have atrophied too significantly, but negative feedback to the HPTA axis is definitely at play, so taking AI/Serms should stop it in its track. It's always better safe than sorry... Is your gf knowledgeable about gear? just curious

[TEST_ME!]

ok simply yes get on a pct,and no i wouldnt take a half dose id take a full dose but maybe only for 3wks,id do either nolva/clomid or nolva/aromasin,for fsu no you never HAVE TO do a pct cause your body will rect***y itself by why would you wanna wait to get your nat test levels back up while your depressed and losing muscle when you can do it so much faster with a pct...thats just stupid!

[TEST_ME!]

From being on this board for a number of years and hearing member after member bitching and complaining about gyno sides and no sex drive as a result of no pct. Go ahead and listen to her but be prepare for the "I told you so"

Yeah i see it happening toowhy even leave yourself open to shit like that

[snoogans]

From being on this board for a number of years and hearing member after member bitching and complaining about gyno sides and no sex drive as a result of no pct. Go ahead and listen to her but be prepare for the "I told you so"

Thank You Sir...

[snoogans]

How do you substantiate that?

You know, i don't know what substantiate means but w/e it means Kale did it... If you wanna listen to your girl go ahead, but there was no point in asking us if your going to question the advice...

[Crest]

i wouldd "do what mummy says" hehe

[TallMan]

You've been humping her to much since you've been using steroids. I think she needs a rest and wants to zero out your libido for a few months. LOL
But serieusly, why does she bugs you about the PCT ? Without PCT you have a bigger change to lose some gains and risking bitchtits and a low libido. Better be save than sorry!

[Atomini]

I can't believe what i'm seeing in this thread.

[TallMan]

I can't believe what i'm seeing in this thread.

it's the eye patch

[sitries]

wheres the logic in no using PCT then???? are you short of cash or something. surely for a little extra expense and a month of popping a few tabs youd rather prevent low test levels, gyno etc!!!!!!

i really dont see the point of the post tbh. i might be a ble to go into a bank, rob it and get away with it..........but on the other hand i most likelly get caught. thats why im now going to do it. smae principle applies to a certain extent. Pct is no bother - so just do it and be safe!

[RAM2500]

I've done many cycles and always finished with PCT no matter what the duration. As you can clearly see the way the question was asked it was more for her benefit. She is pretty knowledgeable about gear w/ a medical background and just wanted to know the facts about HTPA shutdown which I couldn't explain.

just play it safe and take a moderate nolvadex/clomid combo (20mg/50md ED) for 3-4 weeks(proviron optional) and go get bloodwork. At 3 weeks, your testicles should not have atrophied too significantly, but negative feedback to the HPTA axis is definitely at play, so taking AI/Serms should stop it in its track. It's always better safe than sorry... Is your gf knowledgeable about gear? just curious

[RAM2500]

bump

[topnotch]

Just tell her, hey it's my body i'm putting the chemicals into, so i'd rather be safe than sorry...pct won't hurt you, so why take the chance of not taking it...if she's in the medical field then she should understand...it's like giving a flu vaccine...hey i may not get the flu at all, but if i can take the vaccine and know i'm not going to get it...why not pay a few dollars and do it...ultimately it's your body, so you have the control to do the pct and i'd definately recommend

[J*U*icEd]

man do PCT don't be an a s s!

[Atomini]

it's the eye patch

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

[tvd220]

I think its suspect that your girl does not want you to do a pct....

[mkcay7979]

Its better to be safe then sorry

[CANE]

WTF...YOUR GIRLFRIEND? MAN UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

[Big]

WTF...YOUR GIRLFRIEND? MAN UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

you need to change your avatar, that is not allowed.

[Ashop]

My girlfriend thinks my cycle was too short to require PCT.

I have been using 1000-1200 mg of Test per 7 days for the past 21 days. I insist that I need PCT since at this dose, my endogenous testosterone production has completely shut down. My girlfriend dosent believe this is possible but I can't convince her without a technical explanation. Can someone help?

the only way for factaul proof would be blood work. Before, during, after.