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    Second cycle... Opnions will be appreciated!

    Hi guys,

    I'm about to start PCT for my first cycle.. I didn't gain much of it coz I was fasting for 4 weeks ( I'm muslim and this's Ramadan month) but I did shed a descent amount of body fat and every one sees me says that I became huge despite the fact I m down by 13 pounds on the scale.

    I am now thinking of my next cycle... Hoping to eat better and manage some good gains out of it. Actually thinking of Sustanon coz I heard some good and also some bad feedbacks on it so, I figured that I should tell by myself.

    By the way, my first cycle was 12 weeks of Test enanthate @ 500 mg EW kick started with Dbol @ 30 mg ED for 4 weeks (The Dbol was fake ).

    So, here's the cycle... Waiting for your ideas.

    Weeks 1-10 (May be extended to 12): Sustanon 250 mg EOD
    Nolvadex 20 mg ED
    Proviron 50 mg ED
    Letro on hand in case of estrogenic sides (Thinking Nolva and Prov. will prevent them).

    PCT: (I don't like to wait the whole period till the anabolic fades, so usually start a week earlier) This means PCT will start only 2 weeks after the last shot.

    Week 1: Clomid 300 mg ED for the first 2 days then 200 mg ED for the next 5 days - Nolva 60 mg ED for the first 2 days then 40 mg ED for the next 5 days - Prov. 50 mg ED
    Weeks 2-5: Clomid 100 mg ED - Nolva 40 mg ED 0 Prov. 50 mg ED
    Weeks 6&7: Clomid 50 mg ED - Nolva 20 mg ED (Hoping sex drive will be up so, there'll be no need for the Prov.)

    Any input will be appreciated....

    Thanks guys.

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    lol.. don't fast, especially on cycle, that kills muscle! i would go crazy fasting.

    better second cycle:

    sustanon or test e 500 mg a week
    deca or eq 400-600 mg a week

    pct: anthony roberts pct in pct section (nolva, aromasin, hcg), arimidex on hand in case gyno flairs up (letro is too strong)

    how old are you? what's your height/weight?

    ACTUALLY EAT THIS TIME

    jmo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    Hi guys,

    I'm about to start PCT for my first cycle.. I didn't gain much of it coz I was fasting for 4 weeks
    Did you know you were going to do this prior to running your cycle??? I actually dont know how to respond...

    Anyway, why do you favor Sust over other tests? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    Hi guys,

    I'm about to start PCT for my first cycle.. I didn't gain much of it coz I was fasting for 4 weeks ( I'm muslim and this's Ramadan month) but I did shed a descent amount of body fat and every one sees me says that I became huge despite the fact I m down by 13 pounds on the scale.

    I am now thinking of my next cycle... Hoping to eat better and manage some good gains out of it. Actually thinking of Sustanon coz I heard some good and also some bad feedbacks on it so, I figured that I should tell by myself.

    By the way, my first cycle was 12 weeks of Test enanthate @ 500 mg EW kick started with Dbol @ 30 mg ED for 4 weeks (The Dbol was fake ).

    So, here's the cycle... Waiting for your ideas.

    Weeks 1-10 (May be extended to 12): Sustanon 250 mg EOD
    Nolvadex 20 mg ED
    Proviron 50 mg ED
    Letro on hand in case of estrogenic sides (Thinking Nolva and Prov. will prevent them).

    PCT: (I don't like to wait the whole period till the anabolic fades, so usually start a week earlier) This means PCT will start only 2 weeks after the last shot.

    Week 1: Clomid 300 mg ED for the first 2 days then 200 mg ED for the next 5 days - Nolva 60 mg ED for the first 2 days then 40 mg ED for the next 5 days - Prov. 50 mg ED
    Weeks 2-5: Clomid 100 mg ED - Nolva 40 mg ED 0 Prov. 50 mg ED
    Weeks 6&7: Clomid 50 mg ED - Nolva 20 mg ED (Hoping sex drive will be up so, there'll be no need for the Prov.)

    Any input will be appreciated....

    Thanks guys.
    Intuition tells me that since you are in Egypt where there are many Muslims, you must have been fasting for Ramadan which to my knowledge in a month long, hence the four weeks. Which also just recently ended and where you have to fast from dusk until dawn? Not very good idea to use AAS during this time frame, your muscles need to be fed every 3 hours so for optimal growth.

    Anyhow, moving on Id still keep it simple. As in Test and Deca/Eq and change the PCT, use exemestane.

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    Americans, forgive, forget and move on too easy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack
    Americans, forgive, forget and move on too easy!!

    What??

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack
    Americans, forgive, forget and move on too easy!!
    Nice generalization of whatever nonsence that was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack
    Americans, forgive, forget and move on too easy!!
    Man, i can't get to you clear... Is that what you think about my cycle?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Intuition tells me that since you are in Egypt where there are many Muslims, you must have been fasting for Ramadan which to my knowledge in a month long, hence the four weeks. Which also just recently ended and where you have to fast from dusk until dawn? Not very good idea to use AAS during this time frame, your muscles need to be fed every 3 hours so for optimal growth.

    Anyhow, moving on Id still keep it simple. As in Test and Deca/Eq and change the PCT, use exemestane.
    It was designed to end before Ramadan THEN I thought that fasting during PCT will like the end to my gains as I am supposed to get enough calories fighting that catabolic state so, I extended it tell the end of Ramadan..

    The net result was 7 weeks of bulking 4 of cutting and last one of mmmm nothing ( The feast and all the gyms are closed ) so I am now just taking my injections and play with my dik..

    As for arimidex , I can't get it for a good deal of money... On the contrary, I can get Clomid , nolva and proviron real cheap coz the're sold OTC here and I am a doctor ( Gynaecologist in fact so clomid and nolva are my game )..

    So, please tell my what about this PCT will it be OK?!!

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    By the way Ramadan fasting is not from dusk to dawn... It's from dawn to dusk... After dusk we can eat each other's arms if we want to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

    Anyway, why do you favor Sust over other tests? Just curious.
    I don't prefer Sustanon.. I said I heard many mixed reviews on it so I thought it'll be fun to give it a try... May be it's my best and I still don't know.

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    Dbol was fake? Damn..I plan on running a similar first cycle, how were you sure it was fake btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron
    Dbol was fake? Damn..I plan on running a similar first cycle, how were you sure it was fake btw?
    It was Danabol DS from thailand... There was a mis spelling of the word RESEARCH into RESARCH.. That's it!!

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    Damn sorry to hear that bro. Nothing worse then bunk gear.

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    i think ur original PCT looks good but i think u will be in working order by week 4. seems a tad mit high on the clomid but feasible. looks good. but bad idea on the eating. if i were u id sleep during the day and wake and eat and lift at night!jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by largerthannormal
    if i were u id sleep during the day and wake and eat and lift at night!jk
    That what I intended to do but the damn supervisor made me working day shifts while fasting... So, I was awake while fasting and fall asleep when i am able to eat. Just f**kin perfect!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by massattack
    Americans, forgive, forget and move on too easy!!
    Massattack, you are an IDIOT

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    Ahlan wa sahlan, ana masri kaman.. i was wondering if you can telll me if many of the young folks in Egypt are juicing as well. very curious..
    Last edited by jnm; 10-15-2007 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    That what I intended to do but the damn supervisor made me working day shifts while fasting... So, I was awake while fasting and fall asleep when i am able to eat. Just f**kin perfect!!
    That sucks that your original plan didn't work out the way you had hoped, but you should be set to make some good gains off of this next cycle. Keep us posted as it goes.

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