1st cycle dbol/sus/prop/winny advice needed..

[ogaz]

Hey guys,

First of all i am 22 years of age and have about 3 years experience in the gym.

weight: 95 kgs 210 pounds
height: 1.85cm
body fat: 20%

My goal with my cycle is to put on size, and then cut up towards the end. I am aiming for a 10 week cycle and this will be my 1st proper cycle as i have only done a dianabol only cycle before. I will be training hard(5 times a week), eating well with a clean diet and sleeping 8+ hours.

On hand i have,

50 dianabols which are 10mg each
10ml of sustonan
40 ml of test prop
40 ml of winstrol (17aa, but prefer injection)
also PCT, but dont have supplements yet, what would you guys prefer?

I have planned a cycle ruffly on my own but wanted to get your opinion before i get on to it.

Could you guys inform me on how to use my supplements on hand in the most effective way?

cheers.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

You don't have enough dbol, even at 30mg/day, you have enough for 2 weeks...

If your sus is 250, then you dont have enough either, because sus needs to be shot EOD or E3D at the least!

I can't comment on prop and winny cuz i dont know the dosage.

Your product assortment looks really messed up... You cannot design anywhere near a half decent 10 week cycle with it...you havent done enough research on dosing and designing cycles or PCT...DO THAT and stay away from gear till A. you know how much more to get and B. You've spent atleast 1 month learning from this site!

Nobody here will put a cycle together for you or reccomend a PCT...you have to do that yourself..we are just here to help u fine tune.

YOU ARE NOT READY FOR GEAR AS OF THIS POST

Best of Luck
cheers

[Alfamale]

The only reason you need to take sust eod is because of the Test prop. So you should take sust once a week and take prop ed or eod... Days when you take sust you dont take prop. Probably the prop is 75 mg, anyway you just spilt it up so it will last for 10 weeks. If you dont get more gear take d-bol first 2 weeks and take winny in the end of your cycle.

Good luck

[J-41-sd]

Is the whinny 50 or 125mg per ml or is it a ugl and a different strenght? Most likely your prop is 100mg per ml, so you do have enough, but wait 12 weeks or so before you start because you need to do a little cutting and work on the diet and workout consistency, your bf% is too high to start a cycle. Personally I prefer to start at below 10% you might find you are going to be happier with the results that way, good luck.

[ogaz]

yeah i forgot to put up dosages;

sus is 250mg
prop is 100mg
winstrol is 50mg
dianabol is 10mg

My plan is;

week 1 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 2 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 3 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 4 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 5 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 6 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 7 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 8 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 9 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 10 ..................sus 1ml prop 2ml EODl winstrol 2ml EOD

+ PCT

How do you guys suggest i better my cycle? Any additions or omissions?

I am aware that 20mg of Dianabol is not entirely sufficient, but i'm planning on using the Dianabol as more of a kickstart in strength etc. Also as i am using Sus250, i dont want to bulk too much.

What do you guys suggest in regards to PCT?

[ogaz]

bump

[ogaz]

also is ok to take clenbuterol before and throughout the cycle?

[dhriscerr]

yeah i forgot to put up dosages;

sus is 250mg
prop is 100mg
winstrol is 50mg
dianabol is 10mg

My plan is;

week 1 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 2 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 3 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml
week 4 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 5 dbol 20 mg ED sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 6 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 7 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 8 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 9 ....................sus 1ml prop 2ml EOD winstrol 2ml EOD
week 10 ..................sus 1ml prop 2ml EODl winstrol 2ml EOD

+ PCT

How do you guys suggest i better my cycle? Any additions or omissions?

I am aware that 20mg of Dianabol is not entirely sufficient, but i'm planning on using the Dianabol as more of a kickstart in strength etc. Also as i am using Sus250, i dont want to bulk too much.

What do you guys suggest in regards to PCT?

Thats 700mgs of dbol you only have 500. Your first 3 weeks of Sust your blood levels will be all over the place it should be shot eod or e3d not once a week.

[ogaz]

Thats 700mgs of dbol you only have 500. Your first 3 weeks of Sust your blood levels will be all over the place it should be shot eod or e3d not once a week.

yeah i know i am getting some more dbols soon thanks for the sust advice