Winstrol alone?

[RDY2GO]

Is it possible to achieve measureable results in fat loss and/or muscle growth while taking winny without test as a base? Are there dangerous consequences to this method? I would be taking 30mg ED oral.

[smokeyd]

would also like to know this?

[magic32]

"Yes", and most likely "no".

That is to say, "yes" one can achieve measurable results from Winny w/o Test. However, you'd need to be in very good shape to start with if Winny is all you plan to use. Many people report good results from the sole use of this compound, but it's usually just a prelude to harder gear, as they are often discontented with overall results. You'd be amazed how many people begin with an oral or two, only to graduate to Test and the rest!

And "no", Winny is not a fat burning drug. Therefore, it won't literally burn fat for you, but rather harden and increase muscle density for a fat burned look. Also, "no" 30mgs ED won't produce much of anything (not in a man that is). If you're going to use it alone, as stated earlier your body needs to be in a position to cosmetically benefit from it, and you'll need to use a solid 100mgs ED in two 50mg doses for optimal results, though some do receive limited effects from 50mgs ED.

Many who use it (even in stacks) go much higher but that often garners frowns in public circles, so keep it on the DL.

[10nispro]

What type of dangerous consequences are you talking about? Search for winny only cylces and most your answers will be answered.

Alot will depend on the diet, anyway.

[magic32]

What type of dangerous consequences are you talking about? Search for winny only cylces and most your answers will be answered.

Alot will depend on the diet, anyway.

Firstly the sides are not dangerous. Secondly, not everyone incurs them. We're talking a little gastro trouble, and possibly acne.

Now Winny is renowned for it's joint pain, and hair loss. But again this is on an individual basis.

You guys should do some reading:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199794

[longhorn814]

the most troublesome side effect of winny is how quickly is destroys your HDL value..it will literally drop into the single digits quite quickly..it may also elevate your hepatic enzymes as well..just be aware of these

[10nispro]

Sorry, Magic32 I wasn't posing the question and answer in your direction, it was directed to the winny only guys. You are to respected, from me, to even ponder the idea of debating side effects or adverve reactions. I try to read mostly and then watch to see if my answers would have been along the lines of someone of your stature.

[Merc..]

the most troublesome side effect of winny is how quickly is destroys your HDL value..it will literally drop into the single digits quite quickly..it may also elevate your hepatic enzymes as well..just be aware of these

Yea winny messes my cholesterol up...


Merc.

[Merc..]

"Yes", and most likely "no".

That is to say, "yes" one can achieve measurable results from Winny w/o Test. However, you'd need to be in very good shape to start with if Winny is all you plan to use. Many people report good results from the sole use of this compound, but it's usually just a prelude to harder gear, as they are often discontented with overall results. You'd be amazed how many people begin with an oral or two, only to graduate to Test and the rest!

And "no", Winny is not a fat burning drug. Therefore, it won't literally burn fat for you, but rather harden and increase muscle density for a fat burned look. Also, "no" 30mgs ED won't produce much of anything (not in a man that is). If you're going to use it alone, as stated earlier your body needs to be in a position to cosmetically benefit from it, and you'll need to use a solid 100mgs ED in two 50mg doses for optimal results, though some do receive limited effects from 50mgs ED.

Many who use it (even in stacks) go much higher but that often garners frowns in public circles, so keep it on the DL.

Good post Magic ....

[longhorn814]

Yea winny messes my cholesterol up...


Merc.

my HDL after 5 weeks at 100mg/day was 1.4!!!!!!!!

[magic32]

the most troublesome side effect of winny is how quickly is destroys your HDL value..it will literally drop into the single digits quite quickly..it may also elevate your hepatic enzymes as well..just be aware of these

True there are physio side effects, but I assumed he meant physical, good catch Long!

[QUOTE 10nispro]Sorry, Magic32 I wasn't posing the question and answer in your direction. [/QUOTE]
No problem.
And good point, we should always be directing towards self-help, not spoon feeding.

[10nispro]

Whats up Merc? Like the new Avi...

[Merc..]

Whats up Merc? Like the new Avi...

Whats up ...

Yea Magic hooked me up with all kinds of links to merc stuff lol..



Merc.

[Merc..]

my HDL after 5 weeks at 100mg/day was 1.4!!!!!!!!

I forget where mine was but it was awful..




Merc.

[magic32]

Whats up Merc? Like the new Avi...

Yeah it was certainly overdue!

[Merc..]

Yeah it was certainly overdue!

hahhaha

[10nispro]

Yeah it was certainly overdue!

You have that authority....I am just a peasant...I can't even figure out how to put up an avi..

[Merc..]

Just pulled out my blood work form when I was using winny ( and test )..

HDL 25
LDL 128

Merc.

[magic32]

You have that authority....I am just a peasant...I can't even figure out how to put up an avi..

We can't have that. Check your PM for instructions.

[RDY2GO]

Thanks for all the info ! I didnt realize winny was THAT bad for cholesterol : / Well, hopefully some day in the next 10 f***n years ill find a source thats legit and i can actually afford and ill get the gear id rather have