Test cycle duration

**ChuckLee** · 10-18-2007, 08:00 AM

I've done a pair of cycles based on sust 250 and test E
for 8 weeks and 6 weeks respectively.
Now the Q. is: can't in any case a long-acting test be
runned under the 10 weeks? and for the short-acting ones
(like prop) does it speak the same?
Thanks in advice
CL

**10nispro** · 10-18-2007, 08:17 AM

Why do you want to take them for less than 10 weeks? I think most effects take up to 7 weeks to really kick in. You could possibly frontload to raise levels faster, but I may be corrected.

**ChuckLee** · 10-18-2007, 08:56 AM

P.S.
Is test prop good for bulking?

**BOUNCER 01** · 10-18-2007, 09:06 AM

Prop is more often used for cutting cycles and you wouldn't run long esters any shorter than 12 weeks ideally.

**nrobleski** · 10-18-2007, 07:07 PM

prop is the same as any test just with a different ester to determine its active point, it is still testosterone and will still bulk yet is known to hold less water, how I am not sure?? I think maybe because it tends to be used with other aas with short half lives that tend to dry you out such as tren , winny, etc. So to answer your question I would stay clear of the test prop for bulking, and do cyp/enth. I use prop however as well as enth for my bulking cycles to help with my frontload and as it becomes active in the body much faster, i usually do porp eod 100mg week 1-5 all the while doing enth 3 times a week for 750mg, by the time I drop the prop the enth is ready for action. Just make sure to use a lil anti est with that aproach and keep a good eye for any estrogen like effects especially if you are stacking with another est prone aas.

**nowdenlid** · 10-18-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by nrobleski

prop is the same as any test just with a different ester to determine its active point, it is still testosterone and will still bulk yet is known to hold less water, how I am not sure?? I think maybe because it tends to be used with other aas with short half lives that tend to dry you out such as tren, winny, etc. So to answer your question I would stay clear of the test prop for bulking, and do cyp/enth. I use prop however as well as enth for my bulking cycles to help with my frontload and as it becomes active in the body much faster, i usually do porp eod 100mg week 1-5 all the while doing enth 3 times a week for 750mg, by the time I drop the prop the enth is ready for action. Just make sure to use a lil anti est with that aproach and keep a good eye for any estrogen like effects especially if you are stacking with another est prone aas.

good post

**Dizz28** · 10-18-2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by nrobleski

prop is the same as any test just with a different ester to determine its active point, it is still testosterone and will still bulk yet is known to hold less water, how I am not sure?? I think maybe because it tends to be used with other aas with short half lives that tend to dry you out such as tren, winny, etc. So to answer your question I would stay clear of the test prop for bulking, and do cyp/enth. I use prop however as well as enth for my bulking cycles to help with my frontload and as it becomes active in the body much faster, i usually do porp eod 100mg week 1-5 all the while doing enth 3 times a week for 750mg, by the time I drop the prop the enth is ready for action. Just make sure to use a lil anti est with that aproach and keep a good eye for any estrogen like effects especially if you are stacking with another est prone aas.

nice post, your first sentence in that couldn't be closer to the truth. I, personally, don't see the difference in using prop in a "cutting" cycle or a "bulking" cycle...because just like you said....Testosterone is testosterone, the ester is really the only difference and it really doesn't make that big of a difference

**Amorphic** · 10-18-2007, 07:58 PM

even with frontloading on a long ester you wont achieve optimal results until around weeks 6-7, so i would run it 12-14 weeks to get the most out of the ester. if you want to run an 8-10 week cycle, you should just run straight prop through the entire thing.

**J*U*icEd** · 10-18-2007, 08:27 PM

prop can certainly be used in bulking cycles.... i use only short acting estered juice... and ive used prop many times with wonderful results... it's ur diet thats gonna determine wether your cycle is "bulking" or "cutting".... prop can be used for either... ur diet is what determines ur goals in the end....

**ChuckLee** · 10-19-2007, 12:37 AM

Thank you all!
I've got more clear ideas now.
CL

**TexSavant** · 10-19-2007, 12:45 AM

tren causes semi-ridiculous water retention. Its relative affinity for the Progesterone receptor is 60 (Progesterone being 100) which is three times greater than Nandrolone . Amen to the Diet sermon rev juiced... the area where most people screw up, including myself on my first cycle. At least I learned.

**Amorphic** · 10-19-2007, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by TexSavant

tren causes semi-ridiculous water retention. Its relative affinity for the Progesterone receptor is 60 (Progesterone being 100) which is three times greater than Nandrolone. Amen to the Diet sermon rev juiced... the area where most people screw up, including myself on my first cycle. At least I learned.

that would be why people use letro.