Looking for specific steroid recommendations

[JasonR]

Hey, I want to plan a cycle with strong anabolics that dont convert to estrogen, as im having gyno problems.

That leaves the testosterones out, but thats ok, dont like them so much anyway.

So like I said, that compound must give me strength and increased recovery. if i'll get some lean mass along the way, then cool, if not, it wasnt the goal anyway.

[Rob The Bat]

The only ones I can think of are Masteron , Halotestin , and Mibolerone . Hope that helps bro.

[Rob The Bat]

I think Masteron would probably be the best but the price can be a bit on the high side.

[sundancekid]

Try Var and Primo. I am on a primo test e cycle right now and am real happy with the primo. I did not have near the sides I had with test deca cycle.

[sphincter]

tren doesn't aromatize either...

[Dizz28]

Mibolerone.

What the hell?? I'm all set with that stuff and I don't think I would ever try it

I think i've only heard anecdotal stories about using it.

To the origional poster, If you are worried about estrogen you could use an AI or nolva during cycle.

[Merc..]

Halotestin ???????



Merc.

[gorgorothsatanis]

Masteron !!

[SNUKA]

tbol and var

[JasonR]

thanks guys, i see masteron is a great option here.

anything else that I can run standalone without testo ?
how are Proviron and Epistane ?

I have used tbol before and liked it, so its also a good option.
Tren - not good for cardiovascular\progesterone reasons. this drug requires too many backstage support.

-Halo is too toxic and reduces T3, im already hypothyroid so no thanks for now..
-Primo is only affordable by ronnie coleman

Anavar sounds perfect for an athlete: "Anavar (oxandrolone) is not very toxic, not very androgenic , mildly anabolic , and pretty mild on the body´s HPTA " -AR Profiles.

[Dizz28]

-Halo is too toxic and reduces T3, im already hypothyroid so no thanks for now..

Most AAS reduce total free T3 levels

Primo is only affordable by ronnie coleman

Not completely true...a few years ago it was true but now there are a few other companies besides Schering that make some pretty affordable and well-dosed primo.

[Dizz28]

Tren- not good for cardiovascular\progesterone reasons. this drug requires too many backstage support.

Tren is a good non-aromatizing compound but if you are worried about cardio...then you're right, might not be the thing for you

Everything has it's pros and cons man, sorta like women, it's just the one's that you can handle their cons that you will use....That's why it should take a while of research to figure out what you will run and for how long. You need to be able to accept the bad things that might be associated with it in order to use it for it's full potential

[JasonR]

I am accepting some bad things, i realize some of them might kill my HDL, make my hair fall, give me acne, etc. but i'm most worried about estrogen and shortness of breath. also i'm not hardcore so i won't take anything thats extremely toxic like C drops or something, thats not what im looking out of steroids .

My goals are very simple: little mass, alot of strength and agression, and quick CNS-PNS and mental recovery.

But I dig you, one really can't say " I want super strength, super size, and super agression with no sides "

Thanks man ! about your nolva post, i hear from alot of people that if ur prone to gyno, u will get it no matter how much u try to prevent it.
do you think it's true ?

[Dizz28]

Thanks man ! about your nolva post, i hear from alot of people that if ur prone to gyno, u will get it no matter how much u try to prevent it.
do you think it's true ?

not true, there are plenty of steps you can take to prevent these things happening. I know of guys that take a gram of test a week along with deca , dbol and other stuff that aromatizes but they take the steps to control things that induce "gyno" and have no problems. It's all in how you approch the cycle and things you think of ahead of time instead of once they start to happen.

[Merc..]

Gyno needs estrogen to form

As well

as other things such as GH igf-1 and progeterone...



Merc.

[Merc..]

Most AAS reduce total free T3 levels.

Alot of AAS lower t-3 ..

Also due to the lowered t-3 prolactin levels increase ..


Merc.

[Dizz28]

Alot of AAS lower t-3 ..

Also due to the lowered t-3 prolactin levels increase ..


Merc.

yup yup, these things you have to accept will happen, to an extent, despite your best efforts. Like I said, everything has pros and cons...but with better knowledge about them you can reduce the risk for side effects as much as possible

[darkwing]

T-bol and Masterone. I am going to give it a try soon. i am very gyno prone too. Good luck