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    testosterone and??

    if running only a test e at 250 X 2 a week, what else will be needed to run the cycle? i currently have nolvadex and aromasin on hand and some other supps that i have on hand from running a PH cycle. is there anything else i should consider? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakon
    if running only a test e at 250 X 2 a week, what else will be needed to run the cycle? i currently have nolvadex and aromasin on hand and some other supps that i have on hand from running a PH cycle. is there anything else i should consider? thanks
    if this is your first cycle even 2nd i would say go with what you have maybe dbol 30mgs ed for first 4 weeks

    what are your stats?

    what are your goals?
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    33 yrs old been lifting for 14yrs. i was reading some of the cycles and some people are using HCG , is this a necessary requirement? will i need to run the nolvadex and aromasin at the same time as the test e or do i do after my 12 week cycle is over? thanks

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    I would say run the Nolva and aromasin after the 12 week cycle, just as pct... unless you get any gyno symptoms then throw in the nolva...

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakon
    33 yrs old been lifting for 14yrs. i was reading some of the cycles and some people are using HCG, is this a necessary requirement? will i need to run the nolvadex and aromasin at the same time as the test e or do i do after my 12 week cycle is over? thanks
    weight?
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    HCG would not be needed for a mild test only cycle.

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    Test only is a good first cycle( test e or cyp ).. You could use a dbol kicker if you wanted to..


    Make sure your diet and training are on point as thats whats going to get ya where you want to be...



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    i'd grab some arimidex and rut it at .5mg ed throughout. you could frontload the test or get some dbol , 40mg ed for the first 4 weeks, and with the arimidex you wont have to worry about any estrogenic sides. goodluck

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    170lbs,5'10", appr.11% BF. instead of getting dbol would deca suffice? i dont like the side effects that dbol is known for so i would rather stay on the safer side. how many 10ml vials will i need to supplement my 12 wk cycle of test e? thanks

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    From what I see of your stats, your diet needs to be tweeked. You could def. put on some more weight natty before hitting a cycle.

    The amount needed depends on how its supplied. if its 250mg/ml then it will last for 10 weeks at 250mg 2 x week.

    What are your goals for the cycle?

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    well my goals like most is to look good. i have been lifting for 14yrs and yet i feel that there is more that can be accomplished but even with proper diet and training it will take alot longer than when on the stuff. i just want to do at the most 2cyles after that it will be all maintenance.

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    3 vials 10ml ea 250mg/ml

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    if ur good with the measuring ull still have a ml or 2 left over, which id use to carry over another half of a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by largerthannormal
    if ur good with the measuring ull still have a ml or 2 left over, which id use to carry over another half of a week.
    At the end of the 12 week cycle(if using 250mg/2x/wk and 10ml vial(3) ) you should have 6ml left in the 3rd bottle. If you want to frontload 1mg the first week you would have enough to do so. That will help kickstart the cycle.

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    ur forgetting about the lost test in the needle. ur math is good but it dont work out that way! few things come into play. some people measure a hair above the line some a hair below and some use diff length needles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakon
    well my goals like most is to look good. i have been lifting for 14yrs and yet i feel that there is more that can be accomplished but even with proper diet and training it will take alot longer than when on the stuff. i just want to do at the most 2cyles after that it will be all maintenance.
    Regardless of if you do gear or not, to gain muscle, you need a good diet. Without sufficient calories to build muscle, steroids do not work effectively. They're not magic, they don't create muscle out of thin air. I'd recommend posting up your diet in the diet forum for critique to make sure there are no problems/deficiencies in it, if you do a cycle or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakon
    if running only a test e at 250 X 2 a week, what else will be needed to run the cycle? i currently have nolvadex and aromasin on hand and some other supps that i have on hand from running a PH cycle. is there anything else i should consider? thanks

    MAYBE some DBOL and/or DECA ..EQ

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