Lazy on tren/test enanthate

**eatbeeftoputonbeef** · 10-19-2007, 02:24 AM

Hey guys/gals,

This is my first time i have added tren to my cycle and im shooting 400mg along with 600mg test e spilt into 2 injections per week.

I have noticed that after 12-1pm in the afternoon im getting extremely lazy/tired especially at about 3pm i have to force myself to go to the gym is this normal with tren e?

My weights have gone up alot in the last week and i only started 2 weeks ago.

Cheers,
Beef

**J*U*icEd** · 10-19-2007, 02:45 AM

you gotta wait until the test E kicks in... the tren is all alone in your system right now... when the test kicks in ull get a nice kick in the ass of energy... 19 nors make you very lethargic when in your system without test.... wait another week or two for the test to kick in....

**hugovsilva** · 10-19-2007, 03:00 AM

Are you taking t3? Tren is known for decreasing thyroid function. Maybe low thyroid hormone levels is what's generating that situation.

**millionairemurph** · 10-19-2007, 08:38 AM

i had the same problem. and i already had alot of test in me. Decca and tren both made me so tired that even on non workout days i felt it had to take a nap.
I started taking my animal pak vitamins and some caffene with lunch and this helped alot.

**PEWN** · 10-19-2007, 08:53 AM

yea ... caffeine pills..... 200mg a day will spice you right up...

**eatbeeftoputonbeef** · 10-19-2007, 02:46 PM

not currently taking T3 but i may need it as you said, i will wait until the test kicks in for now and in the mean time get some caffeine pills.

**Kratos** · 10-19-2007, 02:48 PM

prolactin makes you sleepy try caber
also it could be a need for T3 like hugo said.

**Ashop** · 10-19-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by pewntang

yea ... caffeine pills..... 200mg a day will spice you right up...

YEP,,IT HELPS! I like strong brew coffee.

**SuperK** · 10-19-2007, 04:53 PM

i've added energy suppliments like redline to my afternoons and before my workouts and has helped alot. test, tren , and mast for me.

**J*U*icEd** · 10-19-2007, 06:03 PM

ooops i didn't realize that you said you were using tren e... my bad... i thought you were using tren A and test E... but if i were you i would still wait a week or 2 and if the build up of test doesn't help then maybe try droppin the dose of the tren...

**eatbeeftoputonbeef** · 10-19-2007, 09:32 PM

Thanks for your help guys.
I will stick with my current dosages and start taking some energy supps and vitamins with some caffeine pills or a nice strong coffee in the afternoon.

Now how would you suggest i run my pct for this cycle?

Week 1 -8
Tren E: 400mg per week
Week 1-12
Test E: 600mg Per Week

I know i can come across some clomid & nolva pretty easily and a mate has a spare 20ml of liquid armidex and about 2 weeks worth of clenbuterol .
How would you guys structure the pct taking advantage of the 20ml of Liquid armidex & the clen ?

**millionairemurph** · 10-20-2007, 02:17 PM

i dont really like the idea of clen in pct. I have read that it takes 6 weeks for the muscle sparring effects to come into play. I used clen in the last weeks of my cycle with a low dose of prop and med dose of tren and gained a couple of pounds net but lose alot of fat. Tren + clen=hell though. I was sweaty, irratable, hot and sometimes would get short of bvreath while talking. I definately couldnt fight those couple of weeks. I could barely walk the 2 flights of stairs to get to my gym.

**eatbeeftoputonbeef** · 10-21-2007, 02:59 PM

Thanks murph,

can anyone else help to structure my pct plan?

Cheers,
Beef

**XNathan** · 10-22-2007, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by J*U*icEd

you gotta wait until the test E kicks in... the tren is all alone in your system right now... when the test kicks in ull get a nice kick in the ass of energy... 19 nors make you very lethargic when in your system without test.... wait another week or two for the test to kick in....

He has trenbolone enth. and test enth. Dont know about your info sources but release of hormon is right after injection but speed of release depend on ester. He has exogenous test in his blood and also trenbolone.

I never run test only cycle but cant belive that you have to wait 3wks for results or cant agree with claim like just tren (injected together with test) is alone in your system, this is simply untrue.