Test Prop- Cycle Duration vs Effectiveness

[EatLiftSleep]

Hi Guys,

A few questions, what is the absolute minimum amount of time required to be on test prop to have some good gains.

Originally I planned to run prop for 8 weeks, however, something has come up and I could probably run it for 6 weeks max. As I have to go overseas urgently for 2-3 weeks. (i will still train overseas.) So I can either cut the cycle short OR

As a second option, how does splitting the prop cycle work, say I run it for 4 weeks, run some PCT, run 2-3 weeks without the prop, then resume the prop again for another 4 weeks, thereby creating a split cycle.

Side notes: Will also be running Winny/Clen .

Thanks.

[Prada]

Running prop is okay for 3-4 weeks, actually I find I peak around 3-4 weeks and further gains are slowed so I just quit around there, that just me. After that its just diminishing return. Doing the split cycle is not a good idea unless you have adequate time off.

[Johny-too-small]

Is this a prop only cycle? How many cycles have you ran b4? Id advise a short cycle (4 weeks) for only the experienced anabolic user as it requires a certain level of primming the body for max. growth and a higher dose of anabolics.

[EatLiftSleep]

This is my first cycle.
Will also run Winny/Clen .

[Kale]

Six weeks is fine to run a Prop cycle. I wouldnt split it the way you suggest though as time off should be equal to time on plus PCT time which is 8 weeks between cycles and not four

[EatLiftSleep]

Ok cool.

If I run it for 6 weeks, what is the optimal dosing?
I was planning on taking 100mg EOD (I am a first time user)

Is it advisable to take more than that?
I will also be taking 50mg Proviron ED.
PCT will be Nolva, 40/30/20/10.

[Roidal]

Ok cool.

If I run it for 6 weeks, what is the optimal dosing?
I was planning on taking 100mg EOD (I am a first time user)

Is it advisable to take more than that?
I will also be taking 50mg Proviron ED.
PCT will be Nolva, 40/30/20/10.

About 500mg per week should be adequate enough.

[EatLiftSleep]

So increase the dosage to say....125mg a day?

[Roidal]

So increase the dosage to say....125mg a day?

If you're shooting it 4 days a week, then yes.

[EatLiftSleep]

Thanks.

Any increase in possible sides from the 25mgs increase?

[Johny-too-small]

^^No. However, injecting EOD may cause additional sides. I hope you dont mind that many jabs for a first cycle.

[Pure Hate]

If you only run prop for only 4-6 weeks can u expect the same results in that span as u would on a longer cycle of the longer acting tests?

[Johny-too-small]

If you only run prop for only 4-6 weeks can u expect the same results in that span as u would on a longer cycle of the longer acting tests?

Depends on your goals. Bulk? Not in my opinion.

[dhriscerr]

When I run Prop EOD I shoot 150mgs so it comes out to 525mgs ew, its alot easier to measure out 1.5 cc's for each shot.

[PlasticFuture112]

well im up in the air for longer vs shorter cycles including prop. I do agree that after around 4-6 weeks the gains kind of take a plateau. the upside to lengthening the cycle is that ive noticed increased vascularity tenfold. This is strictly from experience and how my body has reacted to it. i will say that i will only do prop as my base test. so thats a plus all in itself.

[J*U*icEd]

i would say do the prop 75mgs/day for the 6 weeks... that would be fine for a first cycle with the winny and clen included... run the winny at 50mgs/day... and no you really shouldn't have an increase in sides from the extra 25mgs/day...... but im my concideration 6 weeks of prop at 525mgs/week will give you the same gain as a 10 week test E at 500mgs/wk cycle b/c it take test E 4-5 weeks to kick in anyway, just leaner gains without the water retention... good luck

[EatLiftSleep]

Ok guys.

Juiced, I'm not looking fwd to injecting ED as a first timer! lol

The general consensus is to shoot EOD, 125mgs or 150? What's the difference?

Also, how important is running Proviron during cycle? I was planning to do this but my source hasnt come good with any proviron or PCT. I can get Nolva perscribed but Proviron is in doubt.

[J*U*icEd]

Ok guys.

Juiced, I'm not looking fwd to injecting ED as a first timer! lol

The general consensus is to shoot EOD, 125mgs or 150? What's the difference?

Also, how important is running Proviron during cycle? I was planning to do this but my source hasnt come good with any proviron or PCT. I can get Nolva perscribed but Proviron is in doubt.

well the winny has to be injected everyday anyway so why not put the prop in the needle with it... and youll get less sides wit ED injections... what the hell is the difference ED, EOD... pretty soon ull be looking forward to your injections...

[EatLiftSleep]

I plan to drink the Winny.
Apparently, if you mix the Test and Winny that I have it can cause a reaction.

And I don't want 2 sep injections daily!

[Chuck_R]

Running a 6 week cycle w/ prop........if it were sust. would the above apply

[Chuck_R]

what do you think? Or is it a problem of long ester vs short ester