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    1st cycle input needed

    1st cycle, 38yoa, 5'6", 185...need input.

    week 1-10 300mg Deca
    week 1-12 500mg sust
    week 1-12 proviron 25mg ed
    week 1-12 Nolva 10mg ed
    week 13-16Nolva 20mg ed
    week 15-17 clomid 100mg to 50mg ed

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    Nolva increases PgR and can possibly increase your chances of getting gyno..


    Have you considered using an AI during this cycle??


    I like test for a first cycle...

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    Save nolva for pct. I think your pct is a little weak, Id add an AI. Put the clomid therapy at the start of pct. Drop the deca , youll get outstanding gains from a test only cycle.

    Since its your 1st, then Id run a simple single long-estered test like enan or cyp. Sust must be injected EOD and can have harsher sides for a newbie.

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    sust only cycle with letro? Nolva/clomid pct?

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    Think I'll rethink this with test only

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck_redhill
    sust only cycle with letro? Nolva/clomid pct?



    If you go with a "test only" cycle you could just have nolva on hand in case you had gyno symtoms .. I was referring to adding an AI if you when going to use deca also..


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    i agree with the above. with virgin receptors and a proper diet you will gain a lot with a simple test e cycle

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    OK, trying to work with what I have on hand..Sust, Deca , Aromasin , Nolva, Cllomid, Proviron

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    If I go with the Sust only cycle would 250mg twice/wk/12weeks be sufficient?

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    sust needs to be shot eod for stable blood levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic
    sust needs to be shot eod for stable blood levels
    agreed^

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    Gotcha, 150eod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck redhill
    If I go with the Sust only cycle would 250mg twice/wk/12weeks be sufficient?
    back to this though, yes 500mg/week is sufficient, just make sure you shoot eod

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    Thanks, I'll shut up and go research some more.

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    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck_redhill
    Thanks, I'll shut up and go research some more.
    Youre smart

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