1st cycle input needed

[Chuck_R]

1st cycle, 38yoa, 5'6", 185...need input.

week 1-10 300mg Deca
week 1-12 500mg sust
week 1-12 proviron 25mg ed
week 1-12 Nolva 10mg ed
week 13-16Nolva 20mg ed
week 15-17 clomid 100mg to 50mg ed

[Merc..]

Nolva increases PgR and can possibly increase your chances of getting gyno..


Have you considered using an AI during this cycle??


I like test for a first cycle...

Merc.

[Johny-too-small]

Save nolva for pct. I think your pct is a little weak, Id add an AI. Put the clomid therapy at the start of pct. Drop the deca, youll get outstanding gains from a test only cycle.

Since its your 1st, then Id run a simple single long-estered test like enan or cyp. Sust must be injected EOD and can have harsher sides for a newbie.

[Chuck_R]

sust only cycle with letro? Nolva/clomid pct?

[Chuck_R]

Think I'll rethink this with test only

[Merc..]

sust only cycle with letro? Nolva/clomid pct?

If you go with a "test only" cycle you could just have nolva on hand in case you had gyno symtoms .. I was referring to adding an AI if you when going to use deca also..


Merc.

[Amorphic]

i agree with the above. with virgin receptors and a proper diet you will gain a lot with a simple test e cycle

[Chuck_R]

OK, trying to work with what I have on hand..Sust, Deca, Aromasin, Nolva, Cllomid, Proviron

[Chuck_R]

If I go with the Sust only cycle would 250mg twice/wk/12weeks be sufficient?

[Amorphic]

sust needs to be shot eod for stable blood levels

[Big]

sust needs to be shot eod for stable blood levels

agreed^

[Chuck_R]

Gotcha, 150eod?

[Amorphic]

If I go with the Sust only cycle would 250mg twice/wk/12weeks be sufficient?

back to this though, yes 500mg/week is sufficient, just make sure you shoot eod

[Chuck_R]

Thanks, I'll shut up and go research some more.

[Amorphic]

good luck

[Johny-too-small]

Thanks, I'll shut up and go research some more.

Youre smart