trenabol and winstrol stack!

**joff** · 10-25-2007, 01:50 PM

i`ve been doing my research and have decided to start a 6week trenabol and winstrol course...

i`ll be injecting 1ml tren 75 every 3 days and taking 30mg of winstrol tabs every 3 days also...

i`m wondering if i need to take any nolvadex or hcg etc during or after the course?? and also should i take a 10mg winstrol tab every day or 30mg every 3 days?

any advice would be good.... cheers

**longhorn814** · 10-25-2007, 01:55 PM

wow buddy, you need to do a lot more research..cause that cycle is terrrible for so many reasons..for starters..what are your stats? age, weight, training experience, number of cycles..etc...

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 10-25-2007, 01:57 PM

whats your stats? u need to take oral winny every day, and several times a day. 30mg-50mg a day is normal. tren is a low dose as well.. always use a pct just to be sure.

**Merc..** · 10-25-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by joff

i`ve been doing my research and have decided to start a 6week trenabol and winstrol course...

i`ll be injecting 1ml tren 75 every 3 days and taking 30mg of winstrol tabs every 3 days also...

i`m wondering if i need to take any nolvadex or hcg etc during or after the course?? and also should i take a 10mg winstrol tab every day or 30mg every 3 days?

any advice would be good.... cheers

Welcome to the board ..

How old are you and what are your stats??

Tren ace is usally used ED or EOD ( there is a tren e version also ) ..

Most people use (start with) winny at 50 mg ED ..

Merc.

**joff** · 10-25-2007, 02:07 PM

i`m 25 , 6ft about 80kg... been doing weights for about 4 years now i go jogging twice a week and play football (soccer!!) once a week which is my cardio... just looking to get some nice solid gains in muscle not size wise , and cut up a little...

i`ve got this info from a couple of websites they all state tren e/ 2-3 days....

why do you think this course would be terrible , the doses are average so hopefully side effects would be minimal...
i`ve read many places that this is a good stack....

cheers........

**nowdenlid** · 10-25-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by joff

i`m 25 , 6ft about 80kg... been doing weights for about 4 years now i go jogging twice a week and play football (soccer!!) once a week which is my cardio... just looking to get some nice solid gains in muscle not size wise , and cut up a little...

i`ve got this info from a couple of websites they all state tren e/ 2-3 days....

why do you think this course would be terrible , the doses are average so hopefully side effects would be minimal...
i`ve read many places that this is a good stack....

cheers........

1st you need some form of test for a cycle.

2nd 1st cycle = test only

3rd what you got planed for pct

4th whats your diet like @ 6,ft 80 kgs there is lots to gain natty.

**longhorn814** · 10-25-2007, 02:21 PM

well you know that all steroids will shut down or surpress your natural testosterone production to some degree or another. Tren is probably the most supressive their is. So you will get shut down hard and fast and have zero test in your body and theres a nice chance your sex drive will be gone and your dick will not function for a while. Tren is not a beginner steroid . First cycle = test only. You want to put on size and get cut...not very likely to happen unless you have an amazing diet. At 6 ft and 80kg, you have a lot of growing to do naturally. I sugggest you learn the proper way to eat to grow. Read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010

Thats how you have to eat to grow. You have to eat a different way to cut so unless youve been at it a long time do one or the other first.

**joff** · 10-25-2007, 02:28 PM

sorry i forgot to mention it isn`t my first course but it`s my first in like 2 years , so i`m kinda back at the beginning....

like i said in my post i`m just lookin for some nice muscle gains n cutting , i don`t wanna put on a lot of weight.....

what`s with the 1st cycle - test only?

i`m not sure on a pct i`m still awaiting some suggestions , nolvadex ? hcg ?

keep the replys coming lads i apprichiate it..... cheers

**longhorn814** · 10-25-2007, 02:47 PM

PCT...go to PCT section and start reading

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 10-25-2007, 04:35 PM

eat like hell. my cals the last few years ranged from 3500-5500. i was 15yo and 6'5 and weighed 130. now i am 260 at that height. finally mite be ready for my first cycle which is gunna be test only. sust250@500mg/wekk for 14 weeks.

**nowdenlid** · 10-25-2007, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

eat like hell. my cals the last few years ranged from 3500-5500. i was 15yo and 6'5 and weighed 130. now i am 260 at that height. finally mite be ready for my first cycle which is gunna be test only. sust250@500mg/wekk for 14 weeks.

try sustonon 125mg eod for 12 weeks .