Need First Cycle Help

[SICASSO13]

My first cycle and other info.6"2 w185 lean.I am trying to bulk up.I am 2 weeks into my cycle and using the following.30mg a day of d bol.I am using test cyp200mg with deca 300.My shots are1cc of each in the pin.my shots are for example are one sunday then weds then saturday ,tuesday,friday and so on.wondering if i should be using more test or something finoplex or eq or just bump it up a little or increaase shots I plan to cycle for 3 months and want the most i can get out of the cycle.any add ons or help would be great thanks guys

[DaBoy7777]

you running the test higher then the deca right

[SICASSO13]

i am using one cc of each so the deca would be more.any ideas would be great iam a newby

[cookiemonstR]

i am using one cc of each so the deca would be more.any ideas would be great iam a newby

you should really have done alot more reading b4 embarking on your new venture, this sounds like a very poorly planned cycle.

[sonnygll]

Just test would have been better..... But you're already doing the cycle..... Just don't add anything else. You'll probably be ok with that. You should probably have an AI like anastrozole around and bromo or caber in case you start having problems. Boobs and a limp dick are possible. Better to have and not need.......

Researching PCT would be a good idea.

[CheddaNips]

My first cycle and other info.6"2 w185 lean.I am trying to bulk up.I am 2 weeks into my cycle and using the following.30mg a day of d bol.I am using test cyp200mg with deca 300.My shots are1cc of each in the pin.my shots are for example are one sunday then weds then saturday ,tuesday,friday and so on.wondering if i should be using more test or something finoplex or eq or just bump it up a little or increaase shots I plan to cycle for 3 months and want the most i can get out of the cycle.any add ons or help would be great thanks guys

6'2 185. you could get alot further with food and hard training
1) whats your age
2)why didnt you research
3)why are you running deca more then test
4)for a first cycle test only is best
5) do you know what PCT is and do you have one
6)whats your diet like?

[mx3]

Up the test to 500mg a wk. shooting every fourth day. since your already using deca you might as well get the most out of it and up it to 400mg shooting exactly the same as the test you can actually load both in the same syringe it will save you some time. dont take the dbol more than five wks. what i have mentioned above is a very solid cycle. I would suggest using anthony roberts pct, it works wonders for keeping mass dont forget to keep your cals high after your cycle is complete that will aid in the mass you keep.

[mx3]

dont want you to get confused. split the deca and test up. 250mg test, 200mg deca every fourth day some newbies get confused on that.

[AandF6969]

6)whats your diet like?

I'm curious as well.

[natvtec1.8]

whats wrong with adding liq dex as an ai

[SICASSO13]

you should really have done alot more reading b4 embarking on your new venture, this sounds like a very poorly planned cycle.

thanks for your opinion but rather than saying i should of done more reading on the subject. and my cycle is not planned maybe just maybe you should get a few books your self and answer posts with an answer that would help rather than wasting my time with sesamestreet bullshit.

[Big]

thanks for your opinion but rather than saying i should of done more reading on the subject. and my cycle is not planned maybe just maybe you should get a few books your self and answer posts with an answer that would help rather than wasting my time with sesamestreet bullshit.

for starters, check your attitude. I agree more research should have been done.

6'2 185. you could get alot further with food and hard training
1) whats your age
2)why didnt you research
3)why are you running deca more then test
4)for a first cycle test only is best
5) do you know what PCT is and do you have one
6)whats your diet like?

next answer these questions.

[Big]

next, write your cycle out in an understandable fashion that includes durations, for example only:
test e 400mg/week 1-12
deca 500mg/week 1-10
dbol 30mg/day weeks 1-4
without the durations of each compound it's hard to advise. you say you plan to cycle for 3 months, so are you planning to run dbol for 3 months? give us more info to work with.

[SICASSO13]

for starters, check your attitude. I agree more research should have been done.

next answer these questions.

Hey maybe its the test in my body that is bringing out the nasty side of me just joking.
(1)Age 35 with solid diet and i hit the gym hard
(2)I did research with several books and even spoke with 2 pros about cycles and others about diet and traing
(3)I was told to do it a certain way bye some one i trust very much.And i just started the deca 300 and boosting the test.the man has been using deca forover 10 years along with test and all the other good stuff and knows what works and what doesnt work
(4) Why do you say for your 1st cycle test only is best.There are over 17 beginer cycles around that are good and bad depending on the dice you roll
and who you listen to
(5)Again depending on what advice one takes your dick could fall off you can grow boobs loose your hair and be back at the drawing board.

here is my cycle
Dbol 30mg/day week1-4
Test cyp 400mg/week 1-2 then increase to 600mg/week3-12
deca300 600mg/week3-12
Test p 150mg/week 3-13

[Big]

the reasons I advise test only for a first cycle are for one, it works.
second, if you use multiple compounds in your first cycle and have unwanted sides, how would you know which compound to leave out the next time? gear affects everyone different, so if someone used test only first cycle and was fine, then test/dbol second cycle and was fine, then test/deca/dbol third and had sides, then they would pretty much know it was the deca that didn't agree with them. many people use compound cycles for the first time and all works well, I just prefer the method I stated above.

[Amorphic]

the reasons I advise test only for a first cycle are for one, it works.
second, if you use multiple compounds in your first cycle and have unwanted sides, how would you know which compound to leave out the next time? gear affects everyone different, so if someone used test only first cycle and was fine, then test/dbol second cycle and was fine, then test/deca/dbol third and had sides, then they would pretty much know it was the deca that didn't agree with them. many people use compound cycles for the first time and all works well, I just prefer the method I stated above.

agree 100%. test only for a first also allows you to see how your body reacts to a 'baseline' steroid such as test. nothing wrong with throwing in dbol for a kickstart but anything more than that for a first cycle is overkill.

I think its important to realize a first cycle as kind of a beginning point, you're feeling out the way your body reacts to anabolics and there is no need to rush into a ton of compounds.

[SICASSO13]

Its all good. thanks for your help.

[SICASSO13]

I agree with you in one sense but will argue that it is important to get as much in you that produces results as fast as you can the more cycles you do the more harm that can come to you.SHORT AND FAST IS THE WAY TO GO IN MY OPINION.I dont want to be the hulk i want to be me all healthy and big

[AandF6969]

6)whats your diet like?

????

[luckylou]

The more i read post after post, Its the same old song and Dance.
No one seems to want to do any reserch. I belive they think its easy just to ask the members, instead of taking the time to Maybe read something about a cycle, Let alone read anything on a PCT after cycle.
Then they always get pissed when you dont tell them there Quick fix solution.
WOW.
List of things to do before you ask AnyThing ! Period!
#1 Reserch
#2 More Reserch
#3 Much More Reserch
Peace Out.

[CheddaNips]

Hey maybe its the test in my body that is bringing out the nasty side of me just joking.
(1)Age 35 with solid diet and i hit the gym hard
(2)I did research with several books and even spoke with 2 pros about cycles and others about diet and traing
(3)I was told to do it a certain way bye some one i trust very much.And i just started the deca 300 and boosting the test.the man has been using deca forover 10 years along with test and all the other good stuff and knows what works and what doesnt work
(4) Why do you say for your 1st cycle test only is best.There are over 17 beginer cycles around that are good and bad depending on the dice you roll
and who you listen to
(5)Again depending on what advice one takes your dick could fall off you can grow boobs loose your hair and be back at the drawing board.

here is my cycle
Dbol 30mg/day week1-4
Test cyp 400mg/week 1-2 then increase to 600mg/week3-12
deca300 600mg/week3-12
Test p 150mg/week 3-13

Everyone will advise you to use test only, but if you want to run all that atleast have test higher then the deca. Saying you have a solid diet dosent tell us anything. And it isn't sesamee street bullshit bro. These are powerful compounds and hormones you are injecting into your body so instead of coping an attitude with the vets and telling people what to do that are trying to help you how about you follow the UNWRITTEN RULES and do some research. If you would have looked at one post in this forum about people asking for cycle help you would know to post your cycle in a legitimate readable form and state your age wt cycle exp...etc and it dont matter if it is a good cycle you dont have any PCT which is proably the most important part of your cycle. . . And thats why everyone should research before they post

[CheddaNips]

^^^ i forgot to add you are asking for help while 2wks into a cycle and (from what your orignal post stated) i bet you dont have any AI or PCT chems onhand just incase. . Don't bother. youll need the 5k for the gyno surgery

[sonnygll]

Why mix 2 tests? That is a stupid cycle. Why not just take more cyp and save the prop for another cycle? Why start lower and then increase? You want to frontload cyp, you have this ass backwards. This whole thing makes about as much sense as a condom machine in the Vatican.

[luckylou]

Change this post to NEWBIE WITHOUT A CLUE!!!!