is it ok to use t3 or t4 when bulking for example test and deca cycle?will it limit my gains if i did?
is it ok to use t3 or t4 when bulking for example test and deca cycle?will it limit my gains if i did?
if by bulking you mean CLEAN bulking i cant see how a small dose of T3 is gonna hurt.
Taking 100mcg per day will probably limit his gains... but I think adding about 12.5mcg twice per day or1 00-150mcg of T4 (eltroxin,synthroid) will just aid in keeping him "clean" while the steroids do their thing. plus, T3 levels usually drop with steroids, so a small dose to put that back up is actually a good thing.
Be sure to start the t3 at least a month before your cycle, it takes time for thyroid hormones to stabilize in the blood.
Last edited by JasonR; 10-30-2007 at 06:56 PM.
any vets or mods want to comment on this?? id like to know as im clean bulking while on cycle but i still put on some bodyfat as anyone would bulking on cycle. would the t3 be useful or beneficial at all? what dose?
I'd use 25mcg/ED on cycle, roids can lower your own T3 production, especially Tren. T3 also metabolizes everything faster including protein so it can help add muscle.
T3 is fine on for a lean muscle mass/clean bulking cycle.
It won't negate gains in any way at any dose, because its catabolic muscle loss factor is rendered ineffectual by the anabolism of gear.
So enjoy.
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Yea Baron but because it will need to convert to T3 which is the active hormone you will need to take higher doses of it, thats all.
For example:
50mcg of T4 = 12.5mcg T3
100mcg T4= 25mcg T3
Personally the tip I got from AR is to reach a body temp of 98.2F with the stuff, and just maintain it for the rest of my sporting career, which will be hopefully over a decade from now. (Yes i'll be on this for 10 years)
I don't know if that core temp is the best thing for a pro bodybuilder though, you'll have to ask him.
Last edited by JasonR; 10-30-2007 at 06:55 PM.
Nice one lads!
200-250 mcg of T4 b/c of the conversion factor. This will help gains while on your cycle. T3 greatly increases protein metabolism. Have fun bro.
100 will boil ur arse.... u want something that will speed up protein synthesis and keep u nice a warm but nothing steamy...pop a pill or two a day and ur good. make adjustments while on see how it goes.
I am currently on 100mcg a day while on a prop/mast/var cycle and have had no ill effects on mass, also I am hard as a rock, but this is not a cycle that I intend to add a ton of mass maybe 12-15lbs of keepable lean mass.
It couldn't possibly hurt your gains. T3 is relatively strong when added to a natural body, hence the fat and muscle burning, but it doesn't even approach the strength of AAS's anabolism...NO muscle hindrance whatsoever!
Now whether you get ripped and swole simultaneously is far more contingent upon diet and training than T3 or aas for that matter.
Also, I know the profile recommends ramping every 3-4 days, but that’s only half of the lower limit instructed by Schering (the manufacturer). They say increase every week or two, and I’d rather align myself with their protocol. See “Dosage and Administration”:
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