doing deca again but which anti estro to use???

**kentlatvisu** · 11-01-2007, 04:05 PM

i dont have much deca to use (only 10cc)but i guess u can say im prone to gyno! i never took over 2cc a week for a couple months,amazing results but so much nipple pain for weeks i couldnt sleep.clomid and arimidex (liquid form) arived just in time but im scared to inject again without proper anti estro. please help me if u can guys. love the gains i get and dont really want to spend a fortune on clomid again! cheers

**CheddaNips** · 11-01-2007, 04:17 PM

Armidex. . .

**Big** · 11-01-2007, 04:22 PM

what are your stats, what is the complete cycle and pct?

**CheddaNips** · 11-01-2007, 04:24 PM

if you have armidex and clomid, dor pct, get Nolva to have onhand incase of gyno showing.

***Pheedno*** · 11-01-2007, 04:26 PM

dex should suffice. Start with .25mgED and if sensitivity occurs, triple that dose

**Amorphic** · 11-01-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by CheddaNips

if you have armidex and clomid, dor pct, get Nolva to have onhand incase of gyno showing.

nolva shouldnt be used with 19nors as it can increase pgr and possibly make gyno symptoms worse

**ironaddict69** · 11-02-2007, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

nolva shouldnt be used with 19nors as it can increase pgr and possibly make gyno symptoms worse

Amorphic, i can always count on you to beat me to it!

**Marinos** · 11-02-2007, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by kentlatvisu

i dont have much deca to use (only 10cc)but i guess u can say im prone to gyno! i never took over 2cc a week for a couple months,amazing results but so much nipple pain for weeks i couldnt sleep.clomid and arimidex(liquid form) arived just in time but im scared to inject again without proper anti estro. please help me if u can guys. love the gains i get and dont really want to spend a fortune on clomid again! cheers

Progesterone Control

Lilopristone, Onapristone: These are progesterone blockers also, said to be safer and possibly more effective than RU-486 when it comes to progesterone blocking. They were developed after RU-486 in an attempt to make more effective, less harsh drugs to block progesterone.

Dostinex (Cabergoline), Bromo (Bromocriptine), B-6 : These are used for Deca /Tren gyno sides. This type of gyno is related to progesterone and its receptors. Tren/Deca may act on the progesterone receptor, as they are progestins, and may increase prolactin in the blood (causing lactating). These drugs stop production of prolactin at the pituitary gland. Controlling estrogen levels with an AI also helps here, as progestins themsleves haven't been proven to cause gyno.

RU-486 (Mifepristone - abortion pill) : This drug has the ability to block estrogen, progesterone AND cortisol. It may or may not be very well tolerated, but I would like to find out more about it, as it is used in the bodybuilding world. In PCT it is used to block cortisol and progesterone. A powerful drug that may turn out to be a good choice, but i need more evidence and feedback from experience useing RU-486. Check out this thread i have going if you would like to learn more about it :
RU-486 - Mifepristone (abortion pill)

**AandF6969** · 11-02-2007, 02:18 AM

.5mg cabergoline 2x/week and 500mg B6 ED seems to work for me.

***Pheedno*** · 11-02-2007, 02:21 AM

doubt a script strength prolactin inhibitor would be needed. B6 would work fine in that dose. Outside of that, progesterone is an E2 agonist so using an AI will help with PR stimulation.