EQ/VAR/WINNY/ECDY summer cycle

[staunchrussian]

Just looking for some advice/opinion on my first cycle.

I've been training pretty seriously on and off for about 2.5-3 years (where time allows me). I'm 22 , 178 cm, currently 87kg. I dunno about the bf etc.

I've been supplimenting with NO,Ethyl-ester creatine, tribulus, HMB, fish oil multivitamins for the last year. I respond very well to this and constantly putting on size (when training 5 days). But my bf is higher then desired and i want more than this supplementation is able to give.

After A LOT of research for my first cycle I'm looking at running:
week 1-12 EQ 600mg (800mg first 2 weeks)
week 1-8 Ecdysterone 600mg ED
Var 60 OR 80mgs ED
week9-14 Winny 50mgs EOD (to let the EQ run out fbefore starting PCT)

I'm looking for very lean, borderline-natural looking gains, while loosing bodyfat and minimising sides that i can keep for quiet a while. coz summer is around the corner!

Now I know that:
* TEST should be run in any cycle but IM VERY prone to acne so Ive chosen the safer route.
* for first cycle only one compound is preferred
nevertheless....

Should i run VAR weeks 1-8 or week or 9-14 instead of the winny and maybe drop the winny completely?
What about the dosages?

Any comments/advice greatly appreciated!

[J-41-sd]

If acne is a concern then you may find it more pronounced with dht steriods such as whinnie and var, just go ahead and run some test you won't regret it. I am not sensitive to acne so I have no direct knowledge to give you on the subject but I think acutane works well for it, just do a search and you can find all you need. Good luck.

[VWbug66]

nothin worse than havin a non functioning dick dude...wouldnt chance it..like j-41 said..throw sum test in there u wont regret it

[texasmk4]

you can also use nizarol 2% if you started breaking out

[eL FriJolerO]

you can also use nizarol 2% if you started breaking out

Tried that before with no results... I'm also very prone to acne, and trust me...Winny will give you MUCH MUUUCH more acne sides than test. Test is pretty much safe, acne-wise. Last summer i tried taking winny and man...got very bad acne, face, chest and back. I wouldn't recommend using winny for acne prone users.

Good luck bro...!

[eL FriJolerO]

Oh and J-41 is right... Accutane is a beauty, works wonders!

[Consistency]

EQ and winny give most people more acne then test. Atleast it did for me.

also that is a lot of compounds if you break out with acne how will you know if it the EQ, var, or winny?

Also this will dry your joints out a lot, until the point where it hurts, Test will help lube the joints.

The EQ is a bit high for the first time, your RBC count will go through the roof, stick to 400-500mg.

Run the var for the first 8 weeks then the winny for the last 6 weeks till week 15 (run it 3 weeks past the EQ)

Still WAY too many compounds try just Test maybe add EQ to it

[staunchrussian]

Thanks heaps to everyone for contributions..
much better to hear it from those who have experienced the juice themselves than to read about theories!!!

muchly appreciated

[texasmk4]

stick with test along with either eq or var... don't try too many at first... let your body get used to it then u can experience diff chemicals