3rd cycle advice

[daviebeer]

Hey guys gonna start cycle 3 real soon. (after I get back in high gear at the gym, I've been slacking)

Stats:
25
198 lbs
around 16% BF (guessing.. maybe lower, since I just finished a DNP cycle a week ago)

Thinking About:
weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg/ed
weeks 1-16 test-C 300mg 2x per week
weeks 1-12 tren-Enanth 300 mg 2x per week
weeks 10-16 winny 50mg ed

PCT:
Nolvadex
Letrozole throughout

Problems With It:
1. Dbol face bloats me pretty bad, and I just DNP'ed to help with that and been crankin up cardio/diet to battle fat in face/abs. But I DO like the quick gains it gives me in my shoulders (delts mostly) Any way to combat?

2. Tren makes me a little winded, and I hate cardio enough as it is so I'd like to deter that, cuz I do love me some Tren.

Someone mentioned B6 and the Letrozole to combat these, ideas?

Thanx

[hugovsilva]

Cycle looks good. A bit too long for my taste, but well planned.
If dbol bloats you that much try to kickstart with some test prop.You shouldn't have bloating issues with letro anyway.
Run some t3 as tren suppresses the thyroid.
Get some caber just in case you have progesterone gyno.

Only idea to make your cardio better would be to add some EPO, but that's something I wouldn't do.

[AandF6969]

If I could get lipo in my face and abs and have fat never deposit there I'd be soooo happy while bulking..

[daviebeer]

Hmm not sure if I can get my hands on the prop. Why do you think that'd help and by kickstart do you mean simply running prop before the cycle or just at the beginning?
What kind of effects will the T3 have on the tren? does it help with shortness of breath?
I've never had gyno, but I have my clomid/nolv ready just in case.

(how do I delete this double post? under edit it won't let me...)

[daviebeer]

If I could get lipo in my face and abs and have fat never deposit there I'd be soooo happy while bulking..

I've gotten lipo on my love handles. Worked pretty well, they have stayed smaller for quite a while. I JUST did lipodissolve yesterday on my mid section. you can search for lipodissolve and see my post if u want.

[hugovsilva]

Tren suppresses the thyroid, so it is a good idea to run a replacement dosage of t3. It will not help with your cardio.

Many guys here run prop for the 1st 4 weeks to kickstart instead of an oral.

[daviebeer]

Cycle looks good. A bit too long for my taste, but well planned.
If dbol bloats you that much try to kickstart with some test prop.You shouldn't have bloating issues with letro anyway.
Run some t3 as tren suppresses the thyroid.
Get some caber just in case you have progesterone gyno.

Only idea to make your cardio better would be to add some EPO, but that's something I wouldn't do.

Hmm not sure if I can get my hands on the prop. Why do you think that'd help and by kickstart do you mean simply running prop before the cycle or just at the beginning?
What kind of effects will the T3 have on the tren? does it help with shortness of breath?
I've never had gyno, but I have my clomid/nolv ready just in case.

[daviebeer]

Tren suppresses the thyroid, so it is a good idea to run a replacement dosage of t3. It will not help with your cardio.

Many guys here run prop for the 1st 4 weeks to kickstart instead of an oral.

what oral? I'm talkin about test-c... you just saying the prop will come into effect faster than the Cyp?

[hugovsilva]

I am saying for you to run prop instead of Dbol for kickstart.

[daviebeer]

I am saying for you to run prop instead of Dbol for kickstart.

OH replace Dbol with test... yeah I spose that'd work, but prolly won't give the same quantity of boost as dbol, but it DOES avoid the bloat... thanks

[daviebeer]

Cycle looks good. A bit too long for my taste, but well planned.
If dbol bloats you that much try to kickstart with some test prop.You shouldn't have bloating issues with letro anyway.
Run some t3 as tren suppresses the thyroid.
Get some caber just in case you have progesterone gyno.

Only idea to make your cardio better would be to add some EPO, but that's something I wouldn't do.

Never read much on EPO until now. I don't have a source and I'm guessing you can't get it on ebay, but I do like the sound of improving my cardio- MAN I hate it.

[daviebeer]

Also, does Letro & Nolvadex sound right for my PCT? If so, when should I start and what quantities?

[majorpecs]

Tren suppresses the thyroid, so it is a good idea to run a replacement dosage of t3. .

This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have a study I can reference?

And if you can't get caber or bromo, run a pretty high amount of B6 daily, i've found that this combats the prolactin buildup quite nicely.

[millionairemurph]

some say that eq boosts epo in the body. i imagine that owuld be alot safer than using epo. My friend swears by eq/tren and he runs 3-5 miles a day and is huge.

[daviebeer]

This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have a study I can reference?

And if you can't get caber or bromo, run a pretty high amount of B6 daily, i've found that this combats the prolactin buildup quite nicely.

Lemme know what you find MP

[daviebeer]

some say that eq boosts epo in the body. i imagine that owuld be alot safer than using epo. My friend swears by eq/tren and he runs 3-5 miles a day and is huge.

I'm open to throwin some eq in there. I have some, but have never run any before and don't know a lot about what to expect with it.
Any reasons why I shouldn't?

[hugovsilva]

This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have a study I can reference?

And if you can't get caber or bromo, run a pretty high amount of B6 daily, i've found that this combats the prolactin buildup quite nicely.

Check the trenbolone profile in the drug profile section. It is mentioned there. If you need I can dig some more references for it.