3rd Cycle, First Time Stacking with Deca / Dbol.

**TurboNSX** · 11-04-2007, 09:56 PM

First off I'm 5'9", 160, 9-10% BF. Previous cycles were Sustanon only at 500mg/week. That had me up to 176 but I lost everything due to poor PCT and poor diet after the cycle was over. I came prepared this time and I'm also stacking with dbol and Deca this time around. I'd like to keep the gains this time so I will focus on proper PCT and diet after this cycle. Here's what I'll be on....

- BP Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/week for 10 weeks.
- BP Deca @ 100mg/week for 10 weeks.
- Dbol @ 40mg/day for the first 4 weeks.
- Nolvadex @ 20mg/day through cycle and PCT.
- Clomid for 3 weeks for PCT
- HCG 2 weeks prior to last shot.

3000-3500 clean calories / day, 200-250 grams of protein a day. Lifting 4-5 days a week. Cardio will be very limited since I'm recovering from a broken ankle. I walk fine but running wouldn't be smart yet.

Here's the issue...I know some of you may feel that's a low dose of Deca but I must admit, I'm nervous and scared of the dreaded "deca dick" and other potential increased side effects of stacking so I figured I'd start with a small safe dose and increase it once I feel confident about it. Also, since his is my first time using deca, anything I should definitely know about it? Any feedback appreciated.

**Big** · 11-04-2007, 09:59 PM

100mg/week deca will lube your joints, otherwise you probably won't notice a difference.
In general run test a week or 2 longer than you run deca.

**TurboNSX** · 11-06-2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

100mg/week deca will lube your joints, otherwise you probably won't notice a difference.
In general run test a week or 2 longer than you run deca.

What would you recommend? 200mg?

**reppedout1** · 11-06-2007, 08:01 PM

i'd go 400 bro,just my opinion....repped

**Big** · 11-06-2007, 08:12 PM

Yep, I'd say 500/week test 1-12
400/week deca 1-10
drop the nolva through cycle, instead keep an ai like arimidex on hand in case of gyno, and double-check your pct, hard to critique without dosages listed.

**TurboNSX** · 11-06-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

Yep, I'd say 500/week test 1-12
400/week deca 1-10
drop the nolva through cycle, instead keep an ai like arimidex on hand in case of gyno, and double-check your pct, hard to critique without dosages listed.

For PCT, I'm going to run HCG @ 250iu, 2x/week and Clomid as follows....

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

I'm just worried about not "getting it up" from the Deca. That's why I'm scared to go higher... At what doses would I start seeing "deca dick"?

**Big** · 11-06-2007, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by TurboNSX

For PCT, I'm going to run HCG @ 250iu, 2x/week and Clomid as follows....

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

I'm just worried about not "getting it up" from the Deca. That's why I'm scared to go higher... At what doses would I start seeing "deca dick"?

Might want to add nolva to the pct as well, just not during cycle.
Everyone is different when it comes to the dreaded deca -dick, I have personally ran 250mg/week test and 600mg/week deca and had no erectile dysfunction, strong sex drive throughout. Many people speak against running deca higher than test, so I'm not recommending that for everyone, just giving an illustration of what has worked for me.

**mister.fantastic** · 11-07-2007, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by TurboNSX

For PCT, I'm going to run HCG @ 250iu, 2x/week and Clomid as follows....

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

I'm just worried about not "getting it up" from the Deca. That's why I'm scared to go higher... At what doses would I start seeing "deca dick"?

I've used deca before in a stack and ran cialis when needed and it worked great. If you are really worried about the dreaded deca dick, GET SOME CIALIS, i recommend ar-r

**bigdog123** · 11-07-2007, 11:51 AM

i'd read the robertds PCT... i dont think you can take Arimidex with Nolvadex ... what i got from that is with NOLVA u should use another AI than arimidex or letro like aromasin (exemestan) quote : "So we have to use Aromasin (exemestane) as our AI, because it’s an aromatase inactivator, meaning it makes estrogen receptors useless, and instead of just inhibiting production (as an anti-aromatase would do) it cuts off production totally. Aromasin can also cause androgenic sides (29)(30)(31), which may help to elevate your mood while you are on PCT. This final drug in my recommended PCT can effectively remove up to about 85%+ of estrogen from your body (32). Most importantly, using Aromasin together with Nolvadex doesn’t reduce exemestane’s effectiveness (33). So now, I think the problem of ANY inhibition possible with HCG is solved, and we can use that 500iu/day dose that I wanted to use previously."

i'd double check, pm some vet, i'm still a newb lol ... Pct is the hardest part figuring out i guess.... Gl with ur cycle

**daviebeer** · 11-07-2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by TurboNSX

First off I'm 5'9", 160, 9-10% BF. Previous cycles were Sustanon only at 500mg/week. That had me up to 176 but I lost everything due to poor PCT and poor diet after the cycle was over. I came prepared this time and I'm also stacking with dbol and Deca this time around. I'd like to keep the gains this time so I will focus on proper PCT and diet after this cycle. Here's what I'll be on....

- BP Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/week for 10 weeks.
- BP Deca @ 100mg/week for 10 weeks.
- Dbol @ 40mg/day for the first 4 weeks.
- Nolvadex @ 20mg/day through cycle and PCT.
- Clomid for 3 weeks for PCT
- HCG 2 weeks prior to last shot.

3000-3500 clean calories / day, 200-250 grams of protein a day. Lifting 4-5 days a week. Cardio will be very limited since I'm recovering from a broken ankle. I walk fine but running wouldn't be smart yet.

Here's the issue...I know some of you may feel that's a low dose of Deca but I must admit, I'm nervous and scared of the dreaded "deca dick" and other potential increased side effects of stacking so I figured I'd start with a small safe dose and increase it once I feel confident about it. Also, since his is my first time using deca, anything I should definitely know about it? Any feedback appreciated.

I've run deca @ 300/week with 600/week of Test C and was hornier than a stegasaurus. so long as you keep a good amount of test, it will totally outweigh the deca-dick

**TurboNSX** · 11-07-2007, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by daviebeer

I've run deca @ 300/week with 600/week of Test C and was hornier than a stegasaurus.

Ok guys, I just popped myself with a cc (250mg) of Deca so let the nervousness begin

It was a night of firsts for me... It's my first time ever hittin myself in the thigh and my first hit of Deca. Wasn't a big deal at all... I'll save the buttcheeks for the Sustanon .