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    equipment help?

    Age: 22
    height: 5' 10
    weight: 197
    years lifting: 10 (8 hard)

    Wk. 1-4: Testosterone Enanthate - 400 mg - wk
    Testosterone Propionate 50 mg - Day
    Deca 200 mg - wk
    Nolvadex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 5-10: Testosterone Enanthate - 400 mg - wk
    Deca 200 mg - wk
    Nolvadex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 11-12: Testosterone Enanthate - 400 mg - wk
    Nolvadex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 13: Nolvadex - 10 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 14-16: Clomid Therapy
    Nolvadex - 10 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg Day

    Clomid Therapy
    Week 1:
    1- 300 mg/day 5- 100 mg/day
    2- 100 mg/day 6- 100 mg/day
    3- 100 mg/day 7- 100 mg/day
    4- 100 mg/day

    Week 2:
    1- 100 mg/day 5- 50 mg/day
    2- 100 mg/day 6- 50 mg/day
    3- 100 mg/day 7- 50 mg/day
    4- 100 mg/day

    Week 3:
    1- 50 mg/day 5- 50 mg/day
    2- 50 mg/day 6- 50 mg/day
    3- 50 mg/day 7- 50 mg/day
    4- 50 mg/day


    does anyone have any advice as to what size needle i should use?
    it is my first cycle.

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    you might want to be careful about running nolva with deca , as it can potentially cause gyno to be worse, others may chime in on that.

    test e, prop and deca all for your first cycle?

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    any corrections for that?

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    most will say only to use test for your first cycle. the reason is what if you get bad side effects? How would you figure out what caused them, and therefore combat the sides?

    on another note if you are dead set on the decca, then go with 300-400 mg a week. Both the enth and decca should be shot 2x a week. As far as needles, ill tell you but it really sounds like you arent ready for a cycle if you dont know this.
    get 23 ga 1.5 inch pins for glute shots
    get 25 ga 1 inch pins for delt and quad shot. you should rotate your injections sites to avoid scar tissue buildup.

    your pct needs a little help. why dont you go read up in the pct section and then repost what pct you will have.

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    I've always used 25gx1" and they work fine. Takes a little longer to draw, but my preference

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    are you thnking of running the nolva through out the cycle to help prevent gyno? cause if you are then i think adex would be more effective. Save the nolva for your pct, plus you need to be using alot more than you have posted anyway.

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    first cycle- test e @ 400 to 500 mg/week for 12 weeks.
    Use 25ga 1" needles for all injection sites except glutes, use 23ga 1.5" for glutes.

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    agreed, don't run nolva with deca . for this cycle though skip the other compounds as others have recommended. great gains can come from a test only cycle the first time, provided diet, training, and pct are in order.

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    Wk. 1-4: Testosterone Enanthate - 500 mg - wk
    Testosterone Propionate 75 mg - Day
    Deca – 300 mg - wk
    adex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 5-10: Testosterone Enanthate - 500 mg - wk
    Deca – 300 mg - wk
    adex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 11-12: Testosterone Enanthate - 500 mg - wk
    adex - 20 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 13: adex - 10 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg - Day

    Wk. 14-16: Clomid Therapy
    Adex - 10 mg - Day
    Vitamin B6 - 200 mg – Day

    Clomid Therapy
    Week 1:
    1- 300 mg/day 5- 100 mg/day
    2- 100 mg/day 6- 100 mg/day
    3- 100 mg/day 7- 100 mg/day
    4- 100 mg/day

    Week 2:
    1- 100 mg/day 5- 50 mg/day
    2- 100 mg/day 6- 50 mg/day
    3- 100 mg/day 7- 50 mg/day
    4- 100 mg/day

    Week 3:
    1- 50 mg/day 5- 50 mg/day
    2- 50 mg/day 6- 50 mg/day
    3- 50 mg/day 7- 50 mg/day
    4- 50 mg/day

    Nolvadex :
    20mg/day for 3 weeks.


    Does this sound better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allout13 View Post
    Does this sound better?
    No, this sounds better:
    test e 500mg/week 1-12
    pct

    Keep it simple for the first cycle.

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    also, since its a 16 week cycle, and i need 2 needles to inject each time, how many needles do you think i will need?
    and is it ok to use the same syringe each time?

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    ok. just test e? (no nolvadex )?

    also, what should i include in my pct?

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    {sigh}
    good luck, I'm out of this one.

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    thansk for your help.

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