just starting

[cowboyup]

wat would be a good first cycle with moderate gains was kindA thinking about test e

[Big]

Welcome.
For starters post your stats and pct knowledge, and do some reading on beginner cycles.

[cowboyup]

5'9 202 around 23%bf

[Big]

age?
pct knowledge?

[SNUKA]

even reguardless of age and other stats cut down your body fat by like half and then worry about gaining and then worry about steroids

[cowboyup]

im 26 i have not a clue about pct or any of it im new to all of this

[Amorphic]

im 26 i have not a clue about pct or any of it im new to all of this

at 23% bodyfat, you will need to establish a proper diet and cardio routine to shave off some fat before you prep your body for a cycle.

this makes sense obviously as you want to get maximum results from the compounds you decide to use. yes, steroids can be in you future but first you need to do these things:

1. research. read all the educational threads, pct threads, steroid profiles and watch what happens on the board. this will answer hundreds of questions you may have.
2. focus on developing a proper training/diet/cardio routine to stabilize your body and shave off fat. you need to develop a solid muscle base to work off of.
3. research more. there is no limit to what you can learn here if you spend the time doing it.
4. have patience. nothing is a magic pill or solution.

good luck to you

[Geeezer]

Take a look at the links Brother,
http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php
http://www.steroid.com/side.php
http://www.steroid.com/offster.php
http://www.steroid.com/steroid_cycles.php
http://www.steroid.com/effect.php

[FreaksAllWeek]

bf% a little high in my book...IMO...but from what I have come to realize people are going to do what they want to do =P, a good first cylce would be Test E-500mg/week for 10 weeks and maybe 25-50mg dbol ed for weeks 1-4. Good basic first cycle for good gains =)